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sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:10 pm

Sorry, I can't at the moment as Imageshack is premium only now. I can email to you if you like, but will have to wait til I have more time, sorry.

One other thing, would it be possible to have a knob for selecting the Note number please?

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:17 pm

Ok, I took a screenshot to show part of the problem. I'll email it you now Jo.

EDIT: email sent

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:44 pm

Thanks for the screenshot, that helps! That's an unsupported and not recommended situation. Components should not overlap in such way.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:46 pm

Ok I see what you mean, thanks for checking.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:53 pm

Also, when rearranging a front panel I found it strange that frames didn't always stay in the background and covered knobs. Forcing me to move the frame to get to the knob underneath. But when the frame is moved it now moves everything it contains. Is there a way round this?

Did you notice my request for a knob for changing the Note Event Pad pitch? It would be useful for testing different pitches without filling the front panel with pads.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:07 pm

sl23 wrote:Also, when rearranging a front panel I found it strange that frames didn't always stay in the background and covered knobs.

You're in control over what covers what. If you want a knob to be _on_ a group frame, then drop the knob _on_ the frame.

But when the frame is moved it now moves everything it contains. Is there a way round this?

If u don't want a knob to belong to a frame, drag-drop it elsewhere, where u want it.

Did you notice my request for a knob for changing the Note Event Pad pitch? It would be useful for testing different pitches without filling the front panel with pads.

Saw your request but that's not planned. If you want multiple pads with different pitches = keys, then there are 2 options:
* Use multiple individual pads
* Use a Drum Note Processor. That gives you 12 pads in a single module.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:10 am

Another glitch, another email

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:14 am

mutools wrote: Saw your request but that's not planned. If you want multiple pads with different pitches = keys, then there are 2 options:
* Use multiple individual pads
* Use a Drum Note Processor. That gives you 12 pads in a single module.

I just thought that having one pad and a knob would be useful to both reduce screen space, spacing between pads can't be adjusted in the Drum Note Processor, but also you could then assign a hardware controller to it for quick adjustment/testing.

Maybe for a future version?

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:19 am

I would absolutely love it, if you had an easier way to determine the note per pad, that's for sure. Alone having a little interface for the DrumNote module with a note parameter per event out would be awesome for sure!

You know, Jo, over the many years of being an artist I have long since noticed a mean phenomenon: The better you make something, the more you see what's missing. It's totally classical. You are making massive strides in improving MuLab and the requests you're getting now are only a sign that you are doing the right things!

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:20 am

sl23 wrote:Another glitch, another email

I think it's the same thing: You're partially overlapping sibling components which is not supported and not recommended.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:25 am

sl23 wrote:I just thought that having one pad and a knob would be useful to both reduce screen space, spacing between pads can't be adjusted in the Drum Note Processor, but also you could then assign a hardware controller to it for quick adjustment/testing. Maybe for a future version?

Taron wrote:I would absolutely love it, if you had an easier way to determine the note per pad, that's for sure.

I don't get it. Why do you want to change the note pad key 'live' while making music. I think it's more a patch design property which is defined during patch creation.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:37 am

Yes I appreciate that. But due to the size of the module, I had no choice. It is a bit awkward having to try to move it when most of it isn't showing and not simply because other components are in the way but because it's not visible. If it's not visible it can't be clicked on to drag it.

As the only place it can be dragged is from a visible section, this means it can cause confusion about dragging it. Why? Because the visible parts are over other components, hovering over these highlights or focuses that component, NOT the DNP which the cursor is over!

It's not a major thing but just wanted to explain, it doesn't cause too much issue, but may if you inadvertently drop a small component over something and this happens. You may not be able to see it at all or move it. Could be a pain in the arse in certain situations.

You're the dev and if you think it's ok then who am I to judge? Just trying to help

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:37 am

I always have to hook a note modifier between the DrumNoteProcessor and the respective synth, but you always have to open the note modifier to adjust the transpose, which also involves a certain amount of guessing, of course. It would certainly be extremely elegant, if you could set the note it should play explicitly for each pad such as: [C4] [F2] [A2] [G3] [C8]...and so on, you know.
By the way, that's exactly how it works on a midi keyboard with such drum pads.

But, of course, it's in that grey-zone between convenience and need. But so many things are...

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:41 am

mutools wrote: I don't get it. Why do you want to change the note pad key 'live' while making music. I think it's more a patch design property which is defined during patch creation.

Have you used a Korg ER-1? It has a pitch knob. I found this useful not just for patch creation but composition too! It could give some ideas on how to use different pitched drums in a project. Obviously, unless you were really accurate you couldn't record these knob movements, but it could give quick variations without going into depth. Do you see what I mean?

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:43 am

Taron wrote: But, of course, it's in that grey-zone between convenience and need. But so many things are...

Fulfilling necessity makes a thing good, convenience makes it great!

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