KVR Audio

U-o · Post by **U-o** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:43 am

robotmonkey wrote:
aMUSEd wrote: Confused - it seems the DVDs can just be downloaded (unlike the CM ones that need you to have the mag) - so do you need the mag for a serial or password or something?
Wonder what the Novation thinks about their software being turned into freeware. Maybe they just don't care.

Good freeware

, V+BassStation cost 294.99$ in JRR Shop. (or V-Station "only 249.99$)

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:44 am

robotmonkey wrote:So no magazine needed at all. Seems that MusicTech has not thought this out thoroughly. Wonder what the Novation thinks about their software being turned into freeware. Maybe they just don't care.

Well, nevertheless buying a copy of this particular issue will give readers an in-depth 4 page interview with Martin L. Gore. Well worth it for less than 3 quid I paid

alexmshore · Post by **alexmshore** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:48 am

Is the V-Station on the DVD download the same as the full version does anyone know? I am guessing it is a cut down free version. Interested in trying this one out. Thanks

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:55 am

alexmshore wrote:Is the V-Station on the DVD download the same as the full version does anyone know? I am guessing it is a cut down free version. Interested in trying this one out. Thanks

Nope these are all the same as the retail versions. Same functionality (not crippled down) and without magware logo's (like you see on the Beat and CM software).

D N A · Post by **D N A** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:03 am

U-o wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:
aMUSEd wrote: Confused - it seems the DVDs can just be downloaded (unlike the CM ones that need you to have the mag) - so do you need the mag for a serial or password or something?
Wonder what the Novation thinks about their software being turned into freeware. Maybe they just don't care.
Good freeware , V+BassStation cost 294.99$ in JRR Shop. (or V-Station "only 249.99$)

Indeed

Well , I always liked V-Station. Looks like it'll be spreaded even more

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:20 am

Oh well got it installed, quite a nice sound, reminds me a lot of the old Pro 53 (esp the sync leads)

Patch 'browsing' is a mess though and the patches have really unhelpful names like Bass 23.

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:37 am

EvilDragon wrote:
sockofgold wrote:The point is that is requires an authorization server to be able to use it, and one cannot count on that always being available. It's not a "non issue" at all.
It's totally a non-issue. I just authorized it, got the licence file, AND got it in my inbox. I moved that to my inbox "stash" which never gets deleted. That's about it. Just gotta do this ONCE. And never again.

This is totally fine by me.

If you change your computer (or part of it), does the licence file still work? Presumably it doesn't, which is the whole point of challenge/response protection.
I think all companies who use C/R protection should be bound by law to release a protection-free version of the software if they ever go bust - this could be held by a central 'VST authority', who could just host the file (obviously not samples or other large files, just the VST itself). Companies could pay them a small fee each year (under $50) and then say "We are members of the 'VST authority' (whatever they decide to call it) - you are protected in the event that our company folds, and will be able to download a non-protected copy of our software in that instance."

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:26 am

aMUSEd wrote:Patch 'browsing' is a mess though and the patches have really unhelpful names like Bass 23.

Yeah, I never have managed to figure out why they are listed like that either.

Instead of listing patches in submenus for Arps, Leads, Basses etc, they are are listed in one long list like Arp1, Lead1, Bass1, ..., Arp2, Lead2, Bass2, ... Arp3, Lead3, Bass3, etc

Would be neat to have them in submenus, I wonder if it is possible to achieve that someway or other?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:34 am

Numanoid wrote:Yeah, I never have managed to figure out why they are listed like that either.

Instead of listing patches in submenus for Arps, Leads, Basses etc, they are are listed in one long list like Arp1, Lead1, Bass1, ..., Arp2, Lead2, Bass2, ... Arp3, Lead3, Bass3, etc

They are listed like that because K-Station had the same order. Also on K-Station you could jump in pages, 10 programs at a time, which always lands you on the same type of sound because of this particular order.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:47 am

EvilDragon wrote:They are listed like that because K-Station had the same order. Also on K-Station you could jump in pages, 10 programs at a time, which always lands you on the same type of sound because of this particular order.

OK, thanks for the info.

The VST plugin patch browser can't perform the same kind of jumps?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:07 pm

Nope, it doesn't have the "Page" button that K-Station does.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Numanoid wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Patch 'browsing' is a mess though and the patches have really unhelpful names like Bass 23.
Yeah, I never have managed to figure out why they are listed like that either.

Instead of listing patches in submenus for Arps, Leads, Basses etc, they are are listed in one long list like Arp1, Lead1, Bass1, ..., Arp2, Lead2, Bass2, ... Arp3, Lead3, Bass3, etc

Would be neat to have them in submenus, I wonder if it is possible to achieve that someway or other?

Thankfully the solution for me is that these all seem to import into NI Kore, which I can now use to organise them more usefully, so I have made a Kore controller template for them for anyone that wants it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/564 ... mplate.ksd

For non Kore owners maybe Zen can help?

Anyone know why Bass 1 doesn't make a sound?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:50 pm

basslinemaster wrote:
If you change your computer (or part of it), does the licence file still work? Presumably it doesn't, which is the whole point of challenge/response protection.
I think all companies who use C/R protection should be bound by law to release a protection-free version of the software if they ever go bust - this could be held by a central 'VST authority', who could just host the file (obviously not samples or other large files, just the VST itself). Companies could pay them a small fee each year (under $50) and then say "We are members of the 'VST authority' (whatever they decide to call it) - you are protected in the event that our company folds, and will be able to download a non-protected copy of our software in that instance."

Nice rant ... but it doesn't apply here. Copy protection is a serial number only (no C/R). The plugins get registered to your Novation account in case you need to download them again or forget your serial number. You can install them as often as you like.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:53 pm

Guys, I found the page button.. they built it into the step button.. you just have to press it 10 times to active page mode.

animehaus · Post by **animehaus** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:22 pm

Instead of simply clicking the preset selection button (up or down), keep it pressed: it will behave like the "Page" button.

V-Station 2.0 is out (64 bit)