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janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:48 pm

Let me look to the new fronpanel feature of MUX.
I loaded 3 racks of MUX into the composer, but there is no volumecontrol possible in the mixer for all 3 Muxes each ?
Can this be choosen a new empty frontpanel somewhere in the MUX ? : new frontpanel

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:21 pm

If I've understood...

Modular view cannot have a custom front panel design -- that's what MuLab itself is.

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:35 pm

Thanks
Let me try to first to get a volume control in my composer in the mixer for a MUX vst monosynth
Another VST like HALion in the composer has a volume control ..why not MUX?
Strtange i should aspect that MUX is correct working in Cubase.

MUX has no possibility to make a own synth or effect in combination with a self designed frontpanel you say?

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:39 am

Why would MuX have a volume control? It might only be processing CC4 events to turn them into CC27 events. Volume control would be meaningless.

I said the modular view has a front panel that is MuLab. If you want to design a custom MuX - like any of the MuX presets - then go ahead and make your front panel in the front panel editor and put whatever controls on it are relevant.

Of course MuLab doesn't run inside Cubase etc. MuX VST runs inside MuLab or Cubase etc and you can use MuX presets either in MuLab (built-in MuX), in a MuX in MuLab (MuX VST) or in MuX in any other VST host (MuX VST). But in each of these cases working it's with a MuX preset, not the MuLab modular view, and hence the custom front panel is available.

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:40 am

Thanks
The MUXES instrument do have a volume knob, but controlling the volume in the matrix mixer with the sliders seems to be not possible in the composer itself.
Example: when i load VSti HALion 5 in the composer, all instruments volume can be controlled in the matrix mixer
Can it made possible by Mutools, that the volume of the Muxes instruments can be controlled by the volume sliders?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:28 am

Whether or not a MUX patch has a volume control is the choice of the MUX patch designer. If a MUX patch doesn't have a volume control you can always add it via the modular area. Controlling MUX parameters (eg a volume parameter) using the volume sliders of the VST host is not possible unless the host would send out MIDI controller data for such movements AND this MIDI controller data is routed to the MUX. Not a straightforward case, i think.

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:40 am

Not a straightforward case ... all other vsti in the composer loaded can be controlled for volume in the mixer as it seems ?
Classical muxies .. https://soundcloud.com/janamdo/muxies .. a rough sketch of a half hour in the composer to investigate workflow with the muxies

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:02 pm

I loaded another vsti then HAlion5 in the composer and indeed there is no volume control with the slider, but it is a old one, so i do a test again with a modern Vsti..looks how is that going.
The developer of the composer has probably made possible that HALion5 can be controlled in the composer mixer ?

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:14 pm

I loaded padshop pro VSti from Steinberg in the composer and the volume fader is too recognised in the mixer.
Seems that easy controlling volume in the mixer with a Mux is not straightforward..is it not possible to get a switch in the mux for the volume fader ?

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:27 pm

Do you know how Cubase controls Halion?

If so, configure a MuX preset to work the same way.

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:06 pm

Thanks
You mean how i get a volume slider in the mixer of Cubase for a HAlion5 instrument ?
There is mixer inside HALion5 and there is mixer in Cubase
I don't know how (yet) the mixer routing exactly works in Cubase

bibz1st · Post by **bibz1st** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:05 pm

Im a bit confused, looking at your picture, there are 2 instruments showing and 2 volume faders ?

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:56 pm

Those two volumefaders are not controlling the volume for the two vsti Mux in the picture ..and the topic of this thread is how to get the volume faders connected to a MUX ?

janhardo · Post by **janhardo** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:42 am

To get more musical ideas .. i do want the Muclips from Mulab in the MUX vsti
Is it possible to save a rack and export the midi from the Muclip and get the Muclip in the composer ?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:56 am

Assuming "the composer" means another host, then answer is no as MuClips are in a MuTools specific format.

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