Alright, thanks for your reply.Burillo wrote:i'm not really "putting out" any music in a sense that you can't find it anywhere. i'm just a hobbyist, doing it for my own (and possibly my family) enjoyment. but yes, it was a conscious choice i made.kj.metissage wrote:Just a quick question off-topic. So you made the choice of putting out music with quieter levels than the "commercial stuff" ?
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 20 Feb, 2014 from München
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
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- 8141 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
And thanks from me for the clarification. I did try to put a little disclaimer expecting that might be the case.kj.metissage wrote:Alright, thanks for your reply.Burillo wrote:i'm not really "putting out" any music in a sense that you can't find it anywhere. i'm just a hobbyist, doing it for my own (and possibly my family) enjoyment. but yes, it was a conscious choice i made.kj.metissage wrote:Just a quick question off-topic. So you made the choice of putting out music with quieter levels than the "commercial stuff" ?
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 25 Feb, 2013
FYI commercial broadcast playback levels on iTunes, Spotify, Media are -16 LFKS, YouTube -14 LFKS.kj.metissage wrote:Just a quick question off-topic. So you made the choice of putting out music with quieter levels than the "commercial stuff" ?Burillo wrote:my reason for not using limiters much is not that
while i mentioned that i use Kazrog KClip (which is a clipper, not a limiter), i use it simply to prevent anything from going above -0.3dB. i don't actually drive the gain and squash things to death, i'm only using those to catch an occasional peak - RMS on my master bus rarely goes above -15dB, so it doesn't really make a lot of difference as to which limiter i use. i used both clipper (yellow) and limiter (white) from T-Racks before, and the only reason i switched to KClip was the ceiling control. and i got KClip for free, so that was a bonus too.
if Stealth Limiter came out earlier, i'd probably use it now, as it seems to have a bunch of useful controls (ceiling, infrasonic filter, unity gain comparison), but as it stands, i simply have no need.
If you squashing your mix up to -9 or so it gets played back at those levels so guess what? they'll probably sound worse
-15 LFKS still recommended for cd..
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- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
An RMS of -15dB by itself has little relationship with 'commercial levels'. It depends completely on the program material. An RMS of -15dB can sound just as loud as a -9 dB RMS track. It all depends on the nature of the track.kj.metissage wrote:Just a quick question off-topic. So you made the choice of putting out music with quieter levels than the "commercial stuff" ?Burillo wrote:my reason for not using limiters much is not that
while i mentioned that i use Kazrog KClip (which is a clipper, not a limiter), i use it simply to prevent anything from going above -0.3dB. i don't actually drive the gain and squash things to death, i'm only using those to catch an occasional peak - RMS on my master bus rarely goes above -15dB, so it doesn't really make a lot of difference as to which limiter i use. i used both clipper (yellow) and limiter (white) from T-Racks before, and the only reason i switched to KClip was the ceiling control. and i got KClip for free, so that was a bonus too.
if Stealth Limiter came out earlier, i'd probably use it now, as it seems to have a bunch of useful controls (ceiling, infrasonic filter, unity gain comparison), but as it stands, i simply have no need.
"...so it doesn't really make a lot of difference as to which limiter i use..." (Burillo's words). This will certainly be the case when loudness calms down to a good level. I rarely push any limiter to -3dB - usually more like -1.5 to -2 dB maximum. At these levels there's really not much in it from limiter to limiter.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
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- 8141 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Thanks, this is definitely another nice step up.Skorpius wrote:I'm glad to see that the T-Racks line of products is being expanded again. Congratulations!
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Before/after pictures of some waveforms, perhaps some of your earlier
downloadable demo files would be handy. The new acoustic guitar demos are
pretty impressive. Was this used in producing them?
Also, is there a color control for the purple, As found in Sampletank 2.5?
Cheers
downloadable demo files would be handy. The new acoustic guitar demos are
pretty impressive. Was this used in producing them?
Also, is there a color control for the purple, As found in Sampletank 2.5?
Cheers
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8141 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
I will have to check but I'm pretty sure this was not used on those as the final version was not available at that time. Plus, they would typically only use the effects in SampleTank. The demos we post on SoundCloud are downloadable, though, if you'd like to run your own tests on the unprocessed using Stealth Limiter, etc.glokraw wrote:Before/after pictures of some waveforms, perhaps some of your earlier
downloadable demo files would be handy. The new acoustic guitar demos are
pretty impressive. Was this used in producing them?
Also, is there a color control for the purple, As found in Sampletank 2.5?
Cheers
There is no color control in Stealth Limiter.
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 6 May, 2006 from Sweden
I have tried this one only for a short time and it does sound nice. I'm a hobbyist though and still have to learn how to mix before I run anything through a limiter.
BTW, something went wrong when I installed it. I had to update the Custom Shop and got a whole lot of plugins installed on my HD - plugins I haven't paid for. I had to manually delete them as it cluttered my IKM folder. Maybe you should check the installer or I did something wrong.
BTW, something went wrong when I installed it. I had to update the Custom Shop and got a whole lot of plugins installed on my HD - plugins I haven't paid for. I had to manually delete them as it cluttered my IKM folder. Maybe you should check the installer or I did something wrong.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
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- 8141 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
I'm glad you like it. The installer installs the suite of plugins for easier demoing as well to facilitate he offline authorization process more smoothly.KungKrille wrote:I have tried this one only for a short time and it does sound nice. I'm a hobbyist though and still have to learn how to mix before I run anything through a limiter.
BTW, something went wrong when I installed it. I had to update the Custom Shop and got a whole lot of plugins installed on my HD - plugins I haven't paid for. I had to manually delete them as it cluttered my IKM folder. Maybe you should check the installer or I did something wrong.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
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- 8141 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
"From the director of a couple of movies people have and will actually watch... even if they are equally terrible movies"
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8141 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Thanks, glad you like it! Feel free to share examples of what you've used it on if you are so inclined. Would love to hear some real-world examples of Stealth Limiter in action.soulone82 wrote:![]()
Bought Stealth Limiter the other day and must say it is a very impressive processor. Hats off to IKM!
- KVRian
- 621 posts since 11 Jun, 2011 from Detroit
LOL, I love both TF&TF and xXx, despite how incredibly stupid both are.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:"From the director of a couple of movies people have and will actually watch... even if they are equally terrible movies"


