FM01>FM02 Zebra2 clean signal

[zethus909]

I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but it seems like there is always a clean signal being generated from the carrier operator....so in my situation i am modulating FM02 with FM01, see the pic below.....
It seems that no matter how much I turn the FM knob on FM02, there is always the same FMO2 generator signal......how come that dry signal is not being overtaken by the FM amount....why is there always a tap of the clean FM02 signal being generated?

I figured that the way I had the modules set up, there should be only the post FM signal coming from FM02........but there is always a tap coming from FM02 as thought it wasnt being FMd by any modulator at all.....

yea its like there is always a copy of the carrier operator clean signal no matter how much you change the pitch of the modulator or the FM amount of the carrier...that doesnt make sense.....because if I'm modulating the carrier all i want to hear the product of FM.....i dont want to hear any of the clean signal from the carrier....

[ere2learn]

Turn the volume down on the mixer section for the modulater

[zethus909]

Turn the volume down on the mixer section for the modulater

........FM requires that you raise the volume of the modulater to create the FM.......plus it's the carrier signal that keeps being tapped not the mod

this is the carrier signal not the mod signal, if i lower the mod signal there will be no FM modulation.....

[ere2learn]

Does this not do what your trying to accomplish

[Howard]

FM synthesis 101: If you want the carrier to practically "disappear", you will need to take its pitch down below audio range...

1) Via the lower bar, go to the FMO extra parameters and set 'KeyScale' of FMO2 to 0.00
2) Turn FMO2 'Tune' down to minimum
3) Use the knob to the right of "Tune" to take it down further - modulate negatively with 'MMix1' (you can turn up the Constant knob to maximum in that module when it appears!)
4) Adjust that modulation depth until you get a pleasantly smooth wave

[zethus909]

FM synthesis 101: If you want the carrier to practically "disappear", you will need to take its pitch down below audio range...

1) Via the lower bar, go to the FMO extra parameters and set 'KeyScale' of FMO2 to 0.00
2) Turn FMO2 'Tune' down to minimum
3) Use the knob to the right of "Tune" to take it down further - modulate negatively with 'MMix1' (you can turn up the Constant knob to maximum in that module when it appears!)
4) Adjust that modulation depth until you get a pleasantly smooth wave

lol, woah, that's awesome! i got to step 2, and i was like how do i get rid of that audible modulation.....from the carrier being so low....then i thought, maybe I can modulate that modulation to cancel it out...somehow....but I didnt know how to do that.. ....so step 3 was amazing.. ...lol.....you seriously made a killer synth man...I'm still trying to get my head around how the modmixer works...it seems to be like the magic button .....thanks for the tutorial.....have a good evening

Sean