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[Gribs]

hmm... so, after using it a while i'm having a hard time not turning everything into some kind of tonal reverb or gritty noise shaped transformation.. or of course comb like resonances.. but it seems for something that comes from such a complex process that is so CPU intensive there should be more happening. perhaps i just suck at it or i'm missing something... but the results don't really differ much from combinations of other effects that are much lighter on the CPU and therefore less glitchy in normal use.. at least in my case..

and yet i can't stop fiddling with it! there are a million little sweet spots and variations.

i guess i'm curious how other people are using it and fitting it into their work.. other than the examples in this thread. anyone using it for more subtle processing where it's not the basis of a song?

Two things I can suggest:

-Try focusing on rhythmic patterns. For starters, play around with some of the checkerboard images.

-Instead of trying to make finished sounds or effects directly from Kaleidoscope, use it to record samples to load into a sampler ana use that as the starting point for a new patch.

I hit the "Buy" button today for KS. I am downloading it and the Architecture expansion now.

I am planning to use it more for the latter of these two suggestions.

I think that I have listened to just about every one of Simon's demos... some more than once

[Sampleconstruct]

Calm down listening to 4 minutes of this:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/a ... -patchpool

[dayjob]

Calm down listening to 4 minutes of this:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/a ... -patchpool

already have my own 25+ minute version of that from 10 years ago - audiomulch loopers + delays and combfilters

https://soundcloud.com/ignatius/sets/removal-equation

[Sampleconstruct]

Your's is longer.

[dayjob]

Your's is longer.

lol. twss.

i have a problem with being succinct but it's "long form ambient" so i'm covered on the excuses front.

[Andrew Souter]

i have a problem with being succinct but it's "long form ambient" so i'm covered on the excuses front.

True ambient should always be "long form" IMHO.

What's the point of a 15sec version of "music for airports"? The attack envelope on some synth presets might last 15 sec in these kind of forms...

30-60min or longer ambient pieces are just awesome for deep thinking, work, concentration, meditation, relaxation, etc. Listening becomes almost sub-conscious, and helps the brain focus on other things...

I think I have done my best DSP RnD while listening to long form ambiences generated with KS and B2. I can't listen to "normal" music that has some kind of strong emotional narrative (like my own piano music for example) while working -- it demands attention to itself. But pure deep ambient seems to help the brain focus. I bet "practical/accessible IQ" goes up 10 or more points from such aides to concentration.... really. Somebody should study it.

(nothing against Simon's 4min example. I love it. Very nice harmonies and textures. just give me 30more min so I can get lost in deep through in it. )

[lnikj]

i have a problem with being succinct but it's "long form ambient" so i'm covered on the excuses front.

True ambient should always be "long form" IMHO.

What's the point of a 15sec version of "music for airports"? The attack envelope on some synth presets might last 15 sec in these kind of forms...

30-60min or longer ambient pieces are just awesome for deep thinking, work, concentration, meditation, relaxation, etc. Listening becomes almost sub-conscious, and helps the brain focus on other things...

I think I have done my best DSP RnD while listening to long form ambiences generated with KS and B2. I can't listen to "normal" music that has some kind of strong emotional narrative (like my own piano music for example) while working -- it demands attention to itself. But pure deep ambient seems to help the brain focus. I bet "practical/accessible IQ" goes up 10 or more points from such aides to concentration.... really. Somebody should study it.

(nothing against Simon's 4min example. I love it. Very nice harmonies and textures. just give me 30more min so I can get lost in deep through in it. )

Couldn't agree more with this. It is what I do when I am working too. I sometimes put on shorter pieces and loop them though. If they are the right sort of thing then I don't notice they are looping because I am not really listening to them.

[Sampleconstruct]

In this case the 4 minutes were produced baring in mind that this track is an audio demo inside a playlist, 1 hour doesn't make sense in that case really (my Iris demo playlist now has 160+ tracks with 8 hours of music which is ridiculous really). I recently started composing music and sound for the KASINA mind machine, a device which combines programmed LED lights with ambient, minimal sort of music/sound textures - made for meditation, hypnosis, concentration, relaxation, motivation and so forth. There I can really explore the long ambient form and also work with subtle polyrhythms which relate to brain waves. KS in combination with other things is an ideal tool for that sort of work.

[Andrew Souter]

I recently started composing music and sound for the KASINA mind machine, a device which combines programmed LED lights with ambient, minimal sort of music/sound textures - made for meditation, hypnosis, concentration, relaxation, motivation and so forth. There I can really explore the long ambient form and also work with subtle polyrhythms which relate to brain waves. KS in combination with other things is an ideal tool for that sort of work.

very cool... interested to hear the results...

[lnikj]

I should probably have qualified my comment to say that I was agreeing more with the second half of what Andrew wrote, though I tend to agree that ambient should be preferably long form.

I often listen to your playlists Simon but usually when I don't need to fully concentrate on something I am doing as they are generally more demanding of attention.

They do unfortunately serve to remind me that I am far less able to compose musically interesting stuff from your presets than you are yourself !

The KASINA stuff sounds interesting. Is this work for your own benefit or have you been commissioned by them?

[Sampleconstruct]

I recently started composing music and sound for the KASINA mind machine, a device which combines programmed LED lights with ambient, minimal sort of music/sound textures - made for meditation, hypnosis, concentration, relaxation, motivation and so forth. There I can really explore the long ambient form and also work with subtle polyrhythms which relate to brain waves. KS in combination with other things is an ideal tool for that sort of work.

very cool... interested to hear the results...

Once I've collected a few tracks and the LEDs have been programmed into the audio tracks (you have to cut everything above 16 K because the coding for the coloured LEDs takes place between 16 - 20 Khz - I'll learning the software soon so I can do it all by myself) I might also make an entire album - audio only - with that music which sounds quite divine at times

[Sampleconstruct]

The KASINA stuff sounds interesting. Is this work for your own benefit or have you been commissioned by them?

It's more a collaboration with the inventor (Robert Austin/Mindplace) and one content creator at the moment, not a commission, it's a very niche market so we will see where it takes me, but Ive had a few sessions with that device and some of the tracks have an amazing affect for calming down and curing my insomnia, it's a trip really

[Sampleconstruct]

Processing a little impro I played with the VSL extended violin library, doubling the solo with a synth lead playing 2 octaves below. Both instruments are processed by the same two instances of Kaleidoscope using a tuning file in the tonality of the impro (basically a six-voiced chord with repeating octaves activated in KS).

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/k ... lin-beauty

...and while we're at it, check out this Perforated Stranger - 2 instances of Kaleidoscope using similar presets processing a modulated noise source, crusherX processes one instance of KS, VRoom processes everything.

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/p ... -patchpool

[Krakatau]

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/p ... -patchpool

...So this one is an impro !

wonderful sounding, great equilibration between instruments and processed sounds in a inspired preparation on (pre)mixing stage ! (as far as i can judge...)

[Sampleconstruct]

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/p ... -patchpool

...So this one is an impro !

wonderful sounding, great equilibration between instruments and processed sounds in a inspired preparation on (pre)mixing stage ! (as far as i can judge...)

Thank's - but the one you quoted is more a planned thing using modulated random noise as an audio input, the little violin solo above was the improvised one.