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vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:19 pm

I often find that i ONLY want to control the volume of a sound using an envelope modulator. I can totally do this in all Melda plugins with modulators and an output gain control, using the envelope modulator type,but I would love to have a custom tool specifically designed for this purpose. That way i dont need to open a needless plugin only to modulate the output, it seems like a waste for basic enveloped volume control.

My preference would be a plugin that contains a customized control panel that essentially contains the envelope modulator panel all open and ready to rock, plus maybe some enhanced controls on top of the standard envelope.

I'm sure Vojtech would say 'just use MDynamics' or one of the other plugs, but i do feel there is a gap for a fully featured enveloper plug that is specifically built for this purpose only. I personally use it for fine tuning sound effect envelopes, but i imagine people would find it useful for drums and other areas too.

Anyone else?

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:05 pm

What about MTremolo? It loads up with the modulator right on the screen and simply controls the volume level.

vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:13 pm

Well, i'm specifically talking about the envelope in the modulators, so your standard ADSR type envelope, not the cyclic modulator.

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:24 pm

Oh, ok. Custom shape would be ok?

Also while on this note.... When we invert the wave it would be nice if it visually inverted too.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:20 pm

Hehe vectorwarrior I'm afraid you were right about my answer

. Why making a dedicated tool for something you can do with pretty much any of the plugins?

vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:40 pm

Yeah, i figured. It's just a pain to have to set up and keep switching between the main window and the modulator window... if you made a single plug in specifically for this, you could design the user interface specifically for this purpose and keep everything on the main window.

I can dream

Ha ha, I also know there's probably more important things lined up.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:55 pm

Well, you can design a preset in MXXX

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vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:52 pm

Ha ha, okay, done.

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It would still work better if you could see the ADSR graph and threshold detection waveform. But it works good enough

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:10 am

vectorwarrior wrote:Ha ha, okay, done.
It would still work better if you could see the ADSR graph and threshold detection waveform.

+1

I think the follower window is the perfect design already, I would also strongly vote for making an own plugin out of it. Having all those settings AND the detector level in realtime on one screen would be killer and outbeat every other envelope shaper plugin on the market I know of.

If you design it in MXXX, you loose the valuable information from the realtime graphics display. If you use any other Melda plugin to do it, I agree it feels a little odd.

Also you would have to remember which plugin you "abused" as envelope follower to find your designated presets there.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:47 am

Well, I'll add it as low priority, but quite frankly there are way too many more interesting ideas than making something that already exists. And in fact MXXX is there exactly for this. I know the Melda visualisation is missing, but the sound is important

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jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:23 pm

A lot of the dance music makers use this for quick sidechain ducking. XFer Records LFO tool and Cableguys VolumeShaper to name 2. They are very popular even though way less powerful than a Melda equivalent would be. When they find out the Melda version is free!

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:50 pm

jmg8 wrote:A lot of the dance music makers use this for quick sidechain ducking. XFer Records LFO tool and Cableguys VolumeShaper to name 2. They are very popular even though way less powerful than a Melda equivalent would be. When they find out the Melda version is free!

Those are not envelope shapers but advanced tremolos (a bit like MTremolo, though that is even much more advanced).

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:02 pm

Rather than create a new plugin wouldn't it just be easier to add more modulation options like envelope and follower to MTremolo?

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:08 pm

That is what all the discussion here is about

Everything is in place already (you can do this with any Melda plugin featuring modulators), but a dedicated plugin could contain all important settings including graphic representation in one window, which currently is not the case.

vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:04 pm

Yeah, i'm getting the impression from your posts jmg9 that you're not quite understanding what the request is for. We're not talking about a repeating waveform based volume modification, like a tremolo. We're talking about an ADSR (well, really just a D) that is triggered by a threshold and causes a user definable amount of volume reduction after the D has finished. This is currently accomplished by adding a modulator using the Envelope tab, not the Normal tab, which is what I think you're thinking of. I guess i should have been more specific but I was using Melda terminology.

Anywho, glad it's been added on the list, even if it's at the bottom. I figured it would be super easy for Melda to create as it's all existing functionality. There arent actually that many triggerable envelope shapers out there, certainly none with the amount of control that Melda offers... so i figure it could be an easy win for them.

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