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samsam · Post by **samsam** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:32 am

dayjob wrote:
samsam wrote:I certainly understand some of the anger here towards Apple - my LPX update is tasking an eternity to download, I'm furious with them too.
so furious. they should pay me for my time i spend downloading free updates of stuff. i had to click 3 things with my mouse and then set my computer down and go water my pot plants.

I hear ya.

Finally got it all downloaded....debating whether to forgive them or not....

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:43 am

UncleAge wrote:For 300 plus pages folks complained in that marathon thread. Now that we find out that there is "A" path for users to continue on with Alchemy folk gotta start this $hit again! Unreal. As if someone from Camel Audio or Apple was here to give a f*ck. It's just us users here. You know, the folk who have no say-so whatsoever as to how things turn out.

Why turn every thread into a whinefest? Wtf is there to gain?

Like I said before...some still are going through the shock/trauma of Camel's supposed betrayal of their customers...

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:45 am

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:48 am

wagtunes wrote:Returning to this thread after my "Apple burn in hell" and "I hope Apple goes out of business tomorrow comments" to add this.

I am equally as angry at Camel Audio. They abandoned the people who made them the company they are. Without the loyal customers, there would have been no offer from Apple.

Ben can burn in hell with whoever is running Crapple these days.

Man, some of you people are just right over the top here.

My Alchemy still works on my PC and I did get Mac to run Logic...as well as the new Alchemy. I do not get tying my existence to one single developer. Try that. It might save your heart...

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:52 am

Teksonik wrote:Anyway congratulations to Mac owners finally you've got something that PC owners can't buy (at least not anymore).

There was some amazing stuff already... Numerology... Metasynth...

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:26 am

Help ... I can't find the emoticon for 'smug look'.

I am going to be irritated by not being able to use it in Live though.

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:37 am

lnikj it's OK.

I'm told I have a perpetually smug face, even when I'm... you know... having the Big O... So I'll just sit here and be smug for you.

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:38 am

Codestation wrote:lnikj it's OK.

I'm told I have a perpetually smug face, even when I'm... you know... having the Big O... So I'll just sit here and be smug for you.

Thanks mate

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:43 am

Okay, here is why I am pissed off at Apple.

I, like many of us here, purchased Alchemy and got great enjoyment from it. I would happily pay a fair bit for an update like this, but its not available in a form that i can use in my current setup. Meanwhile, a whole load of Logic users, many of whom may never have wanted this, will get it for free. That annoys me, there's nothing i can do about it, except complain.

The music software industry is a fairly small one, small enough that companies like Camel, u-he, FabFilter etc have been able to exist and thrive. I'm not an advocate of the free market, but this industry is one example where i see it working fairly well, good companies with decent products and fair prices can be successful. However Apple are bigger than the whole industry and this is a demonstration of that fact. Yes, I can now buy a version of Alchemy 2, but only if I succumb to the somewhat dictatorial market that Apple users (myself partly included, i have an iPhone) submit to.

I am a little pissed at Camel but, as someone that compromises my own integrity and principles doing a job i hate because it allows me some freedom to follow my own creative pursuits, I totally understand their decision. Sure, they weren't physically forced into the deal they made but money is a good means for coercion and I have no doubt the figures offered were huge.

Mainly though, I'm angry at Apple because of their power, I'm angry that they can and will restrict the availability of a product in such a way. I'm not surprised, this is exactly their modus operandi. I know that, Camel knew that. Nevertheless, I don't like it.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:58 am

mutantdog wrote:Okay, here is why I am pissed off at Apple.

Mainly though, I'm angry at Apple because of their power, I'm angry that they can and will restrict the availability of a product in such a way. I'm not surprised, this is exactly their modus operandi. I know that, Camel knew that. Nevertheless, I don't like it.

Apple is not restricting you in any way from using Alchemy - Just buy a MAC and Logic.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:58 am

The so called Free Market allowed Microsoft to bail out Apple years ago to rise again like a Phoenix and rule the world!

keisuki · Post by **keisuki** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:07 am

So you're saying everyone should be pissed off at Microsoft for starting all this?

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:14 am

Why not?

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:23 am

C-note wrote:
mutantdog wrote:Okay, here is why I am pissed off at Apple.

Mainly though, I'm angry at Apple because of their power, I'm angry that they can and will restrict the availability of a product in such a way. I'm not surprised, this is exactly their modus operandi. I know that, Camel knew that. Nevertheless, I don't like it.
Apple is not restricting you in any way from using Alchemy - Just buy a MAC and Logic.

Sure, i can do that but, as a Windows-based Live user it means i must change my entire studio into an Apple-based one. That seems like a restriction to me.

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:24 am

trimph1 wrote:Why not?

Yeah, hell, I'm in. Dammit Microsoft. You bastards.

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