KVR Audio

fluffy_little_something · Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:52 pm

Those were rather simple sounds if I remember correctly

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:01 pm

pdxindy wrote:
Mutant wrote: So if the OP spent months on making the set and if the customers could get the sounds closer in some short time, it would tell us something.
Right ?
What do you think it would tell us?

I know a few writers who send their articles to me for proof reading and final suggestions before publishing. In a short time I make some improvements to the articles. That does not mean I could write the same articles myself, nor that they are poor authors because in a short time I helped improve what they did.

As i said many times, the OP did a very good job at getting it very close.
And i don't mean that the users who bought the set could make the set of this quality, most probably they couldn't because then they would not spend money on it.

But if they could EASILY get it much closer (and if B sounds worse, then closer would mean worse), then it would point at the possibility of the OP making some effort to >>surpass<< the analog with Diva, not just match it.

Ah the language barrier... i hope everyone will understand what i wrote lol...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:02 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Those were rather simple sounds if I remember correctly

But apparently, one could build an entire case out of sound A being manipulated in some way.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:07 pm

Mutant wrote: 2 possibilities:
1. You are a liar.
2. You paid for your title.

Whatever. My advice to you is to make up your mind about whether you 1) want to claim that people are biased in general or whether 2) analogue was biased to magically make A sound better than B. You see, these statements are not identical and 2 does not follow from 1.

It was exactly the same stunt you made when I took in claiming that your waveform was a proof of cheating. When I argued against it, suddenly it was just about proving that the waves were different and not that he was cheating, which was your initial claim, just like 2 was the initial claim this time.

I know you would never admit this in public but now I have at least plantet a seed in your mind, which could grow given the right conditions and lead you to insight about what you actually are writing all over this thread.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:13 pm

Mutant, master at moving goalposts...

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:24 pm

IncarnateX wrote:It was exactly the same stunt you made when I took in claiming that your waveform was a proof of cheating. When I argued against it, suddenly it was just about proving that the waves were different and not that he was cheating, which was your initial claim, just like 2 was the initial claim this time.

Facepalm... so my initial claim was "cheating"...
It was a question with a tongue in cheek "cheating" word that unfortunately ignited your emotions, which clouded your logical thinking.
Mr psychology, you are aware that if people are under very strong emotions, they can't think properly.
Right ?
The "cheating" part was followed by

and

emotes (smile and wink).
Do i really need to quote it again ?
It is page 29.
Notice that that post was not edited, so it is not like i put these emotes there now.
Mr psychology, can you tell me what do these emotes mean ?
1. Playful, not serious mood.
2. Gravely serious mood.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:24 pm

trimph1 wrote:Mutant, master at moving goalposts...

No shit

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:27 pm

trimph1 wrote:Mutant, master at moving goalposts...

You'll find them on the grassy knoll.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:29 pm

Mutant wrote: Facepalm... so my initial claim was "cheating"...
It was a question with a tongue in cheek "cheating" word that unfortunately ignited your emotions, which clouded your logical thinking.
Mr psychology, you are aware that if people are under very strong emotions, they can't think properly.
Right ?
The "cheating" part was followed by and emotes (smile and wink).
Do i really need to quote it again ?
It is page 29.
Notice that that post was not edited, so it is not like i put these emotes there now.
Mr psychology, can you tell me what do these emotes mean ?
1. Playful, not serious mood.
2. Gravely serious mood.

Bla bla bla. playful emoticons or not, your statements still suck and your twisting when you are caught with your pants down sucks even more.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:33 pm

IncarnateX wrote:
trimph1 wrote:Mutant, master at moving goalposts...
No shit

fluffy_little_something · Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:34 pm

Is it still about that triangle? Can't you record the Diva part again, but with the triangle off and everything set as identical as possible so that one can really compare apples with apples? Else there will always remain a hint of unfairness to put it mildly...

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:36 pm

IncarnateX wrote:Bla bla bla.

Do all professors say "Bla bla bla." where you live ?
I am rolling on the floor

Keep it up.

IncarnateX wrote:playful emoticons or not

So you won't admit that emoticons can drastically change the meaning of the text ?
Mr psychology ???

IncarnateX wrote:your statements still suck and your twisting when you are caught with your pants down sucks even more.

So rude.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:38 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Is it still about that triangle? Can't you record the Diva part again, but with the triangle off and everything set as identical as possible so that one can really compare apples with apples? Else there will always remain a hint of unfairness to put it mildly...

No, the triangle was solved many pages ago when the OP posted the patch.
There was no need to post anything, it was the exact patch and it sounded and looked exactly as in his 2nd audio clip.

Mutant wrote:
analoguesamples909 wrote:because 'Classic Poly' - I modified the Osc in the preset pack version to differentiate it from another preset - and to stop Urs wasting anymore of his time on this - I post the exact preset used in the test. I'll be interested to see if this puts it to bed! However due to the fact that waves move a lot...we will have to see...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByOzK- ... sp=sharing
3rd oscillator is on triangle shape and set a bit quieter than 1st and 2nd.
You are cleared and you may go free now.
Next time don't say it is 2 oscillators and dont try to emulate 2 oscillators with 3 oscillators.

Page 50.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:39 pm

Considering all of the evidence and applying my PhD in proctology, I have conclusively determined that Colonel Mustard did it in the drawing room with a square wave.

Now that that's settled, can we move on?

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:47 pm

Mutant wrote:So rude.

Yeah, and how pathetic and lousy of you to come back to this thread and try yourself with yet another claim that the test was manipulated. This time with a claim that he might even have done it unconsiously so denial will just confirm that. That is circular logic and called a tautologi and as a statement that cannot be falsified it has absolutely no scientific value.

Put it anyway you like, twist it out of shape, rephrase it but the statements of your posts still stand unless you edit all of them. I think you should start to do that right away because there is a whole bloody lot of editing to do here to catch up on your goal movements.

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