Melda Products Install ALL Presets for ALL Plugins

[Teksonik]

I get the just delete/leave the orphan files argument, but ultimately one shouldn't have to.
I don't think it's too unreasonable to have a multi product installer place only the files needed for a checked plugin on a system.
It seems quite unnecessary when other developers can manage it.

Thank you. In my original post on the subject in the Melda forum I asked if it was a bug in the new installer. When I found it was intentional behavior and there was no plan to change it is when this all started.

Again people try to focus on this:

Imagine if every developer installed every file for every plugin they have with every install.

There is a good reason they DON'T

Anyway I'm done with the developer and this thread. I've made my point. People can make the decision if they want to do business with a developer who puts his own convenience ahead of his customer's.

Enjoy your bloatware fanbois..............

[Gregorius]

Wait....what "plugin kernel" ? I've deleted MReverb and all Melda trash I could find. Does the uninstaller remove this "plugin kernel" or is this something I should go looking for ?

The plugin kernels are 2 dll files located in c:\windows. I think they were called "MeldaPluginKernel" and "MeldaPluginKernel64" or something like that. The uninstaller should have deleted them.

There was a thread about how the melda installer installs files to the system directory (which was a no no for me!). He did this on mac, too. But I think I read he recently said, that this is not possible anymore, cause osx has updated some safety settings. Generally this was a great move from apple and shows that these directories are for system files...

[steve2KVR]

...and all those "system files" are not for you ...just saying .../s~

[Scotty]

I am fan. My fandom has been earned through demonstrable product commitment, extremely fair pricing policies, excellent functionality, compatibility across DAWs and versions thereof.

The only thing this bloated is your overthetop criticism of the developer. Feel free to checkout. Sell your Melda software. Some unsuspecting person is going to get a great product from an outstanding developer replete with some benign presets. Hell it will be so reliable they might actually make some good music with it and decide to purchase more of his plugins; that is if the outstanding free-ones don't make the grade.

One thing is for sure their new plugins will be quite easy to operate due the the consistency in design, support videos and presence of the developer in the forum at KVR. Poor bastards they get what coming to them... fantastic software with a tiny footprint, proven reliability, easy authorization, continuous free upgrades.... oh damn those pesky benign presets.

Once you sell your Melda plugin(s), consider selling your software sample libraries. You know those ones with the 24 sample layers when you only really use 12? They are so annoying... what being spewed all over the hard drive like some ill-conceived argument. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

[Touch The Universe]

I am fan. My fandom has been earned through demonstrable product commitment, extremely fair pricing policies, excellent functionality, compatibility across DAWs and versions thereof.

The only thing this bloated is your overthetop criticism of the developer. Feel free to checkout. Sell your Melda software. Some unsuspecting person is going to get a great product from an outstanding developer replete with some benign presets.

One thing is for sure their new plugins will be quite easy to operate due the the consistency in design, support videos and presence of the developer in the forum at KVR. fantastic software with a tiny footprint, proven reliability, easy authorization, continuous free upgrades....

Once you sell your Melda plugin(s), consider selling your software sample libraries. You know those ones with the 24 sample layers when you only really use 12? They are so annoying... what being spewed all over the hard drive like some ill-conceived argument. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

+1

[pheeleep]

I am fan. My fandom has been earned through demonstrable product commitment, extremely fair pricing policies, excellent functionality, compatibility across DAWs and versions thereof.

The only thing this bloated is your overthetop criticism of the developer. Feel free to checkout. Sell your Melda software. Some unsuspecting person is going to get a great product from an outstanding developer replete with some benign presets. Hell it will be so reliable they might actually make some good music with it and decide to purchase more of his plugins; that is if the outstanding free-ones don't make the grade.

One thing is for sure their new plugins will be quite easy to operate due the the consistency in design, support videos and presence of the developer in the forum at KVR. Poor bastards they get what coming to them... fantastic software with a tiny footprint, proven reliability, easy authorization, continuous free upgrades.... oh damn those pesky benign presets.

Once you sell your Melda plugin(s), consider selling your software sample libraries. You know those ones with the 24 sample layers when you only really use 12? They are so annoying... what being spewed all over the hard drive like some ill-conceived argument. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

+2

[Karma_tba]

[Saukar30]

I have to agree with Teksonik on this one. I only have the free bundle of the Melda plugins, but I too try to keep my hard drive as clean as possible. I hate having to delete all of those files that get installed as well. Anything unwanted is just that.... unwanted.

Regardless if the developer makes it so that it is easier for him, the focus should be what's best for your customer. For a single effect, there should be no need for any other files to be installed except for that one plugin. If the developer wants to advertise or keep efficiency, maybe he should rethink his approach. Some people just don't want to deal with extra files because there is a POTENTIAL for something to go wrong. When one has worked on maintaining their computer to always run at optimum speed/accuracy, maintenance becomes routine and unwanted files are the first thing to go. If another user doesn't care what a program installs on their system, that's ok too. Not saying there is a strong risk of catching a virus or malware from Melda, but in this day an age, a risk is a risk. Especially if you are using the programs professionally.

I think the argument of comparing this to sample library is invalid. A sample library with more gigs than you need may be unwanted, but it comes as part of the package that you pay for. You could buy Kontakt and not use any of its library, but you have a CHOICE of whether to install it or not. The program still works as its intended and there is no extra maintenance on the user's end (if that is the case).

Maintaining a lot of plugins from a developer standpoint IS A LOT OF WORK! I don't think anyone disagrees. However, if all developers used this technique, more people would definitely say it's a concern. Whether it's 200 megs or 2 GBs, if it's bloat, it's bloat. Melda should be taking heed to this and using it to their advantage. Maybe the price of the plugins needs to increase if the maintenance doesn't justify the cost.

[Kr3eM]

I am fan. My fandom has been earned through demonstrable product commitment, extremely fair pricing policies, excellent functionality, compatibility across DAWs and versions thereof.

The only thing this bloated is your overthetop criticism of the developer. Feel free to checkout. Sell your Melda software. Some unsuspecting person is going to get a great product from an outstanding developer replete with some benign presets. Hell it will be so reliable they might actually make some good music with it and decide to purchase more of his plugins; that is if the outstanding free-ones don't make the grade.

One thing is for sure their new plugins will be quite easy to operate due the the consistency in design, support videos and presence of the developer in the forum at KVR. Poor bastards they get what coming to them... fantastic software with a tiny footprint, proven reliability, easy authorization, continuous free upgrades.... oh damn those pesky benign presets.

Once you sell your Melda plugin(s), consider selling your software sample libraries. You know those ones with the 24 sample layers when you only really use 12? They are so annoying... what being spewed all over the hard drive like some ill-conceived argument. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

+3

[murnau]

Get the point ?

D'you mean the point that angry trolling about things you don't really understand is getting a bit old and sad? Yeah I get that one - I think there are millions of people who get that one now.

[asksol]

Hi Teksonik, the installer now always installs all presets for all plugins, security measure for cases when someone doesn't update something, multiple users on a single computer etc. Small irrelevant files if you don't need them. Like the thousands you already have there you don't need.

If someone does not update something, then you can be sure they don't want to update presets for that something either,
as this leaves the installation in an inconsistent state.

[murnau]

You should inform the dev that the installation is in "an inconsistent state". God bless you in the name of all the Melda users.

[lnikj]

I can find Melda presets on my computer neatly placed in the usual locations ... the system library and the user library. On my mac that is; I don't know where they go on windows. I could very easily clean them up here if I could be bothered to.

Unless I am missing something, this doesn't constitute them being "all over my computer", unless, perhaps, my hard drive is badly fragmented.

Am I missing something?

[asksol]

I doubt that would be very productive.

A user that submits polite bug reports is valuable, but he was not even awarded
a "thank you". I can understand why the reporter feels frustrated when his request is
not taken seriously and the reasoning is nonsensical from a technical perspective.

I do not condone bashing the dev however, hope he was just having a bad day, which happens to everyone.

[mcnelson]

I can find Melda presets on my computer neatly placed in the usual locations ... the system library and the user library. On my mac that is; I don't know where they go on windows. I could very easily clean them up here if I could be bothered to.

Unless I am missing something, this doesn't constitute them being "all over my computer", unless, perhaps, my hard drive is badly fragmented.

Am I missing something?

Yes - you're missing the fact that you got them in the first place, as they're for plugins you don't own (unless you have every Melda plugin).

Why should you have to bother to remove them? You didn't ask for them in the first place.

Would you accept the same from Waves, if when you install one of their plugins, you get presets for every single one of them?

Bashing aside, this is the crux of the matter, and the defence seems to be "Vojtech is a good guy, we trust him" or "look at the quality of his free plugins", or "he gives good support". NONE of these address the issue.