Tracktion blatantly IGNORING me!

[TheWall]

Lunch Money, complete rescan can wrongly identify plugins and put them on the ignore list. Just don't use that option unless it's really necessary...

[valley]

Right now, I'd take a run at snadkisking your harddrive, and clean installing Tracktion.

WTF were my fingers doing?

just in case anyone is curious, the word I was shooting for there was 'scandisking'.

[jens]

Right now, I'd take a run at snadkisking your harddrive, and clean installing Tracktion.

WTF were my fingers doing?

just in case anyone is curious, the word I was shooting for there was 'scandisking'.

you even beat me concearning weird typos

[valley]

you even beat me concearning weird typos

Cheers, Jens.

[AD80]

Right now, I'd take a run at snadkisking your harddrive, and clean installing Tracktion.

WTF were my fingers doing?

just in case anyone is curious, the word I was shooting for there was 'scandisking'.

I didnt say anything cuz I thought it was some new technical term I didnt know about. Like some type of ultra-disk-scan or something.

[Meffy]

WTF were my fingers doing?

just in case anyone is curious, the word I was shooting for there was 'scandisking'.

Whatever you meant to say, snadkisking is golden! :-) It must have a meaning; I'll think of one.

Meffy
not a Tracktion user, just got caught up in the snad

[edit]

The practice of snadkisking, or storing dried salted snad in a kisk or barrel, dates back to pre-Roman times. The fellow in the picture at the URL below is a professional snadkisker from the middle ages.

A man snadkisking

Here is a photo of a modern kisk of snad.

Modern kisk

High technology kisk-compression at work.

Flat fish

Result of insufficient snad density in kisk.

Aw, shoot

I apologize for the intrusion -- the word "snadkisking" was too beautiful for me to leave without a tribute. :-)

[AD80]

No, you haven't wasted my time at all. Friendly advice is never a waste of time, because regardless of information, the community atmosphere is enhanced.

Valley: I agree that it may be bullocksed. I'll do a clean install soon just to be safe. Interesting point about the plugins-- I've installed some demoes and betas lately, so it's likely one of those! Cheers!

404: The strange thing is that not one of the 'ignored' plugins is one that was previously ignored, and I'm loathe to delete the synths. Hopefully I'll find the culprit plug and the rest will be safe.

HQ: I use Audacity for its "amplify" effect. There might be something similar in Tracktion, but I haven't found it. Basically I zero in on a word or phrase that's too quiet compared to the rest and boost its amplitude. I've tried compression and volume envelopes and the whole deal, but when you're dealing with a weak .wav to begin with, the only tool that's satisfactory for me is increasing the amplitude of the .wav itself without trying to fix it with a million plugs. I like to go right to the source. I like Audacity fine, but it's not seamless to use, ya know?

One cool way of fixing things like that is just splitting the clip around the word you need to amplify and dropping a volume envelope right on the word. (I'm sure you've tryed that, just thought I'd mention it just in case. )

[haydxn]

you don't really even need to put anything on it; when you split the word you need to make louder, check out the clip properties panel at the bottom and increase its volume (each clip has a separate pan and volume control). i use these all the time and i have to say that it's one of tracktion's killer features for me for adding variety without having to automate EVERYTHING

[jens]

you don't really even need to put anything on it; when you split the word you need to make louder, check out the clip properties panel at the bottom and increase its volume (each clip has a separate pan and volume control). i use these all the time and i have to say that it's one of tracktion's killer features for me for adding variety without having to automate EVERYTHING

yes, that's part of Tracktion's project orientated paradigm (there, I said it ) and it is what makes Tracktion outstanding - speaking honestly to me it seems that a lot of people which are praising Tracktion all the time don't really get what's so special about it - (sorry if I stepped on a few toes with that sentence )

[AD80]

speaking honestly to me it seems that a lot of people which are praising Tracktion all the time don't really get what's so special about it - (sorry if I stepped on a few toes with that sentence )

Or maybe Tracktion has several ways of doing things and either way is fine.

[jens]

speaking honestly to me it seems that a lot of people which are praising Tracktion all the time don't really get what's so special about it - (sorry if I stepped on a few toes with that sentence )

Or maybe Tracktion has several ways of doing things and either way is fine.

that's not what I meant - the one thing which nearly no sequencer can do (with the exception of Tracktion and Samplitude at the moment) and which is an extremely powerful way of working for any style of music is object-orientation - if you don't use it you could as well stay with Cubase - sorry, but that's my opinion - if more people would recognize its power probably more sequencers would have it

[AD80]

that's not what I meant - the one thing which nearly no sequencer can do (with the exception of Tracktion and Samplitude at the moment) and which is an extremely powerful way of working for any style of music is object-orientation - if you don't use it you could as well stay with Cubase - sorry, but that's my opinion - if more people would recognize its power probably more sequencers would have it

Man thats like saying, "If you dont zoom with the mouse wheel, you might aswell stay with Cubase" or something like that. It doesnt make sense. Theres several ways of doing things for a reason. So people will use them. Theres no right or more powerful way, which ever way gets the job done. You can ajust the volume of the clip with the propierties editor, or drop a volume filter on it, or hit Cntrol-W and do it in a wave editor, or automate the volume, any way you're comfortable with is fine.

[Lunch Money]

For what it's worth:

The quality (or lack thereof) of the material was such that using the volume automation was highly inconvenient for any number of reasons. And yes, I tried. Here's the main list:

1. I would need 2 or even 3 volume plugs to get some of the passages up to an acceptable volume level. No way am I going to automate that many.
2. I had to move phrases around here and there to get them to fit. Better to have the whole .wav at the right amplitude to begin with, and Audacity was much quicker than automating the volume and then rendering a new file from within Tracktion
3. Using Audacity, I had *visual* cues for amplitude with some words relative to others. Ie. if I boosted too much (and the next word over was SUPPOSED to be louder) I could hit "undo" and then amplify with less gain.

I love Tracktion, but sometimes you have to know how to use the right tool for the job, rather than forcing another tool to do it just because you "can" if you try hard enough.

Greg

[TheWall]

OT: Greg, Good tune! reminds me of Poison and Kiss.

[jens]

For what it's worth:

The quality (or lack thereof) of the material was such that using the volume automation was highly inconvenient for any number of reasons. And yes, I tried. Here's the main list:

1. I would need 2 or even 3 volume plugs to get some of the passages up to an acceptable volume level. No way am I going to automate that many.
2. I had to move phrases around here and there to get them to fit. Better to have the whole .wav at the right amplitude to begin with, and Audacity was much quicker than automating the volume and then rendering a new file from within Tracktion
3. Using Audacity, I had *visual* cues for amplitude with some words relative to others. Ie. if I boosted too much (and the next word over was SUPPOSED to be louder) I could hit "undo" and then amplify with less gain.

I love Tracktion, but sometimes you have to know how to use the right tool for the job, rather than forcing another tool to do it just because you "can" if you try hard enough.

Greg

Greg, you seemed to have missed the important information which could help you so much

When you cut your recording into as many different clips as you need to get everything to the right level you can set the level for each new clip individually within Tracktion - all this is non-destructive. All this is really really quick if you're used to it.

E.g. I can de-ess a whole vocal recording that way within ten minutes or so.
A week later I can still finetune my work without the redo causing any quality-loss of the program-material.

As you can put plugins also on these clips and not only on the whole track you can solve many problems that way. E.g. put a compressor on the whole clip of a vocal-recording then cut out the syllables with
strong 's' delete the compressor on these clips and do crossfades for masking the differences between the
Clips.

You can do a lot of things this way.

Again: this is what is so powerful about Tracktion


@AD80: I only try to help people to improve their abillities and workflow.