Hehe. Thanks.EvilDragon wrote:It's actually quite a good analogy.mgiambro wrote:So true, but first impressions are so important. You turn up to a job interview . . Shoes unpolished, a button missing from your shirt (been there) . .. You may well be by far the best candidate, but already you're starting with a handicap. Apologies for the analogyjanhardo wrote: Stupid world.. the only solution is to attract people by the looks of mulab. Best I could think of at the minute.
MuLab & MUX UI Looks
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 374 posts since 13 Sep, 2011 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I've been working on the font. Here is an A-B comparison:
http://www.mutools.com/pics/ui-comparison/A.png
http://www.mutools.com/pics/ui-comparison/B.png
Which one is looking best?
http://www.mutools.com/pics/ui-comparison/A.png
http://www.mutools.com/pics/ui-comparison/B.png
Which one is looking best?
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Definitely A. B looks like it's missing anti-aliasing or something.
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- KVRian
- 1451 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
I like B. Feels bolder and easier to read
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- KVRAF
- 5381 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
"A" seems to be the existing Verdana font or very similar.
"B" (Calibri ?) has two improvements, to my eye/brain:
1. "B" upper case is more condensed, a lighter font, and with less kerning. Thus it scans faster and is more readable. ("A" is more E-X-P-A-N-D-E-D, bolder and thus slower to discriminate letters and scan.)
2. "B" lower case has a slightly thicker line width with 2x pixels, so higher contrast and readability. The "B" lower case is also a bit more condensed and the design leads my eye better from letter to letter, thus I 'grok' words faster. ("A" has a thinner line width so I always had some diffraction with the background on my monitor.)
"B" (Calibri ?) has two improvements, to my eye/brain:
1. "B" upper case is more condensed, a lighter font, and with less kerning. Thus it scans faster and is more readable. ("A" is more E-X-P-A-N-D-E-D, bolder and thus slower to discriminate letters and scan.)
2. "B" lower case has a slightly thicker line width with 2x pixels, so higher contrast and readability. The "B" lower case is also a bit more condensed and the design leads my eye better from letter to letter, thus I 'grok' words faster. ("A" has a thinner line width so I always had some diffraction with the background on my monitor.)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 374 posts since 13 Sep, 2011 from UK
Just had another look.. Just to confuse things. I like B better on the buttons, tracks and racks. I prefer A in the parts with the light green background e.g. the tempo, cue point, focussed module.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 21 Feb, 2015
This is pretty clear to me, I agree with Michael L -
A: Seems very similar to how MuLab is now, maybe slightly clearer? Honestly, not much of a difference for me.
B: I like this style - it is bold and crisp, looks petty good. But it also matters what the fonts are on : buttons, menu's, etcetera. It would be nice to have options there.
Delighted you are working on this Jo!
A: Seems very similar to how MuLab is now, maybe slightly clearer? Honestly, not much of a difference for me.
B: I like this style - it is bold and crisp, looks petty good. But it also matters what the fonts are on : buttons, menu's, etcetera. It would be nice to have options there.
Delighted you are working on this Jo!
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Had another look.
Weird stuff. The word "Bass" on the second track looks better in B but the word "Drums" in the first track looks better in A. Overall, I'm still with A - the bold version is more clearly bold and the letters do not feel so cramped, which makes them easier to read ("m" vs "rn" for example I'd expect to be much clearer in A -- the centre stile (if that's the right word; can't find it defined now) in the "m" of "Drums" is very faint in B, far clearer in A).
Is everyone on LCD screens or is anyone still on CRT, by the way, as that'll make a huge difference.
Weird stuff. The word "Bass" on the second track looks better in B but the word "Drums" in the first track looks better in A. Overall, I'm still with A - the bold version is more clearly bold and the letters do not feel so cramped, which makes them easier to read ("m" vs "rn" for example I'd expect to be much clearer in A -- the centre stile (if that's the right word; can't find it defined now) in the "m" of "Drums" is very faint in B, far clearer in A).
Is everyone on LCD screens or is anyone still on CRT, by the way, as that'll make a huge difference.
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- KVRAF
- 5381 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
My screen is a macbook 17" 1920x1200 LCD standard gamma D50 white.pljones wrote:Is everyone on LCD screens
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- KVRian
- 1451 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
Two LCDs here. Both 1920x1080.
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- KVRAF
- 3156 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Honest opinion ~ don't see much improvement personally, sorry Jo.
I appreciate the work you're doing on this, but I'm finding it difficult to see if there's any benefit from static pictures. There's currently no way to test fonts so can't see if these are better in use.
I don't suppose you can release a version 6 update that could allow us to try out these fonts? Probably not that's fair enough though.
I think for me it's the spacing between letters that is the worst problem. As pljones said, 'm' and 'rn' are a problem. But also t, i, l, when together can sort of blend together and make you pause longer to read correctly. Other combos of vertical letters also seem to blend together.
Thanks for the effort
I appreciate the work you're doing on this, but I'm finding it difficult to see if there's any benefit from static pictures. There's currently no way to test fonts so can't see if these are better in use.
I don't suppose you can release a version 6 update that could allow us to try out these fonts? Probably not that's fair enough though.
I think for me it's the spacing between letters that is the worst problem. As pljones said, 'm' and 'rn' are a problem. But also t, i, l, when together can sort of blend together and make you pause longer to read correctly. Other combos of vertical letters also seem to blend together.
Thanks for the effort