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az82 wrote:Urs, if this is not already late.. can you please do a search for "Exression" in the Hive code? :) Tx.
Oh... yeah, hmmm... dunno :oops:

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Will zebra Hz ever have the oberhiem filter from diva added?

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It seems i cant create new points in zebra 2 MSEGS anymore by double clicking.

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themachinelt wrote:It seems i cant create new points in zebra 2 MSEGS anymore by double clicking.
Double clicking was always ever a "zoom to fit" function for MSEGs. New points happen by cmd-click (Mac) or alt-click (PC).

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Perhaps the other way around would be more useful. Then you wouldn't need to have two hands to create an MSEG... one hand could be on your MIDI keyboard, the other would add points...

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EvilDragon wrote:Perhaps the other way around would be more useful. Then you wouldn't need to have two hands to create an MSEG... one hand could be on your MIDI keyboard, the other would add points...
One day it might become user's choice.

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Urs wrote:
themachinelt wrote:It seems i cant create new points in zebra 2 MSEGS anymore by double clicking.
Double clicking was always ever a "zoom to fit" function for MSEGs. New points happen by cmd-click (Mac) or alt-click (PC).
Thanks! i guess i was imagining that i was able to create points by doubleclicking :D

Maybe add an option to choose how to add them? :) i mean inverse alt+doubclick/one click zooms and doube click adds. :)

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themachinelt wrote:Maybe add an option to choose how to add them?
see previous post :clown:

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Urs wrote:
themachinelt wrote:Maybe add an option to choose how to add them?
see previous post :clown:
Ive just did! well thanks in advance for adding this option in the future :)

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Urs wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Perhaps the other way around would be more useful. Then you wouldn't need to have two hands to create an MSEG... one hand could be on your MIDI keyboard, the other would add points...
One day it might become user's choice.
The sooner, the better :)

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Why not single click, as in Ableton 9.2 automation?

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chaostheory wrote:Will zebra Hz ever have the oberhiem filter from diva added?
They already have them. uhbie.
rsp
sound sculptist

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zvenx wrote:
chaostheory wrote:Will zebra Hz ever have the oberhiem filter from diva added?
They already have them. uhbie.
rsp
just updated . cheers

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az82 wrote:Why not single click, as in Ableton 9.2 automation?
Because we use click-drag to do 3 different things already. Adding points to an envelope is commonly needed less often than, say, dragging them around or adjusting curvature. One usually sets up a number of points (done once) and then adjusts things (done a lot). Doing latter must be more accessible than doing former.

This might be different for host automation, not sure. Some hosts let one choose a tool that enables a certain type of operation for single mouse clicks. I think this may be an option too.

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Thanks for the insight Urs. I've thought some more about this after reading your response and one big difference with Ableton is that they have a continuous running line and the mouse pointer projection is onto that line, while in Zebra's MSEG editor there is no such reference.

Anyhow, I am prefectly fine with the way the MSEG editor works currently. Double clicking may add some hand shaking so adding/removing points that way may not be that precise. I may be wrong.

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