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runaudio · Post by **runaudio** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:52 am

http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/ ... day-238905
every year mulab came last not this year fantastic

chuckwood · Post by **chuckwood** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:13 am

That's brilliant! Congratulations Jo.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:03 am

Thanks to everyone who voted MuLab! This is an extra motivation for the M7 works!

mgiambro · Post by **mgiambro** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:36 am

Well done Jo. Top 10 next year!

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:59 am

A good result, considering those that came above it. Hopefully it'll help get a better reviewer for the next release than the one who found that MuLab wasn't Reaper and pretty much left it at that.

The top two being Live and and FruityLoops (as was) is interesting - they're not necessarily what some would immediately think of as "top DAWs" in that they're usually considered fairly targeted. Perhaps their users are greater in number and consider things from a different perspective? I also noted that Reaper was described as being clutter-free - so, it's worth noting that you can have much more clutter than MuLab currently has, IMO, and still get MusicRadar saying things like "clutter-free". Of all the other screen shots shown, MuLab most looks like Pro Tools, to me - but less cluttered (as the rack area is separate from the track header).

runaudio · Post by **runaudio** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:13 am

and a other thing they all had new releases mulab 7 is still yet to come cant wait

zendorf · Post by **zendorf** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:34 am

Nice...congrats to Jo, with Mulab being up amongst the big boys of the DAW world on that list! Of course this is just a popularity contest, but that means there are obviously quite a few Mulab fans now. Also no mean feat for a one-man dev team, considering how large the dev teams for some of the competing products are.

As a former Acid Pro user, it was sad to see Acid still even on the list, shame on Sony for abandoning it.

Btw, my main DAW is Reaper, but I voted for Mulab as I have a soft spot for it and the MUX vst. Looking forward to seeing what M7 brings to the table

mgiambro · Post by **mgiambro** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:16 pm

pljones wrote:A good result, considering those that came above it. Hopefully it'll help get a better reviewer for the next release than the one who found that MuLab wasn't Reaper and pretty much left it at that.

Hear hear.

pljones wrote: The top two being Live and and FruityLoops (as was) is interesting - they're not necessarily what some would immediately think of as "top DAWs" in that they're usually considered fairly targeted.

Interesting indeed. I've demoed FL Studio (wasn't for me). It's probably good for those who want to create EDM and need good bundled instruments. .. I owned Live and the session view is definitely a plus for electronic musicians and djs for live work. However, considering it's supposed to the 'best' daw for electronic musicians, I was expecting the midi editor to be much better than it is. IMO, MuLab's midi editor beats it hands down. I think it's very much a 'follow the crowd' situation. For what it's worth, I what I want in a DAW is basically something that is light, CPU efficient, with good midi and without loads of crap bundled content. Basically a midi-focussed, intuitive Reaper. I think MuLab is the best option for this requirement currently and I know I'm not the only one who is looks for this in a daw. I've also used Cubase, which is supposed to have the best midi, but found it sluggish, bloated and painful to use. Usability-wise, Studio One is good, but quite bloated and likes you to be online. Sorry, rambling here, but I think the point I'm trying to make is that there is definitely a space in the market for MuLab to occupy.

runaudio · Post by **runaudio** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:40 pm

i cant see why mulab cant be up there with the so called big daws for me mulabs all i need and more

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:29 am

@mgiambro ~
Quite agree! I decided to build my own PC as I was getting sick of clearing out all the bloatware on a new winstall.

Software is the same they add all this stuff to try and appeal to everyone but the truth is it puts many off! I've tried FL, Ableton, Reason, Reaper, Muzys and Mulab. The only ones that had pick up and play ability are Muzys and Mulab, from a complete beginners pov.

That says alot about Jo and his vision on what a Daw should be. More isn't always better, especially if you sacrifice usability!

mgiambro · Post by **mgiambro** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:19 pm

sl23 wrote:@mgiambro ~
Quite agree! I decided to build my own PC as I was getting sick of clearing out all the bloatware on a new winstall.

Software is the same they add all this stuff to try and appeal to everyone but the truth is it puts many off! I've tried FL, Ableton, Reason, Reaper, Muzys and Mulab. The only ones that had pick up and play ability are Muzys and Mulab, from a complete beginners pov.

That says alot about Jo and his vision on what a Daw should be. More isn't always better, especially if you sacrifice usability!

Absolutely, If you can choose what content to install, it's not so bad, but even then from my pov it's not that useful unless you mess around with it as so many others who have the daw will be using it and people will recognise the sounds. Synth presets, drum samples fine. It's the loops (particularly instrument loops) I can do without.

Indeed MuLab is usable to the point of rarely needing to look at the documentation. The danger with this is that potential buyers might think that it is a 'beginners' daw and the usability is at the expense of power. Once you've used it, you know that's not the case. I can't speak for guitarists, bands etc, but I think MuLab is great for electronic music and I'm sure if more musicians who make electronic music had demoed it, they'd use it.

Another thing I really like is the installation .. Unzip to where you like without it polluting your registry with lots of rubbish. Fantastic.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:46 pm

mgiambro wrote:It's the loops (particularly instrument loops) I can do without.

Yeah the loops aren't something I use either. Perhaps these should be reduced to a handful just for seeing what can be done with them.

mgiambro wrote:I can't speak for guitarists, bands etc, but I think MuLab is great for electronic music and I'm sure if more musicians who make electronic music had demoed it, they'd use it.

Too true!

mgiambro wrote:Another thing I really like is the installation .. Unzip to where you like without it polluting your registry with lots of rubbish. Fantastic.

yep one of the best things about it imho!

Mivo · Post by **Mivo** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:33 am

mgiambro wrote:I can't speak for guitarists, bands etc, but I think MuLab is great for electronic music and I'm sure if more musicians who make electronic music had demoed it, they'd use it.

Well, the endorsements of professional artists are frequently paid for. It's just another form of marketing, and doesn't necessarily reflect on what they really (or also) use. Makes it harder for smaller companies that don't have huge (or any) budgets for PR. I mean, you can't have a DAW debate in the general forum here without certain marketing people posting lists of the artists that supposedly use their product.

What MuLab could benefit from is more people making YouTube videos (something similar what SeamlessR does for FL Studio). It's an easy way to increase awareness and help others, too, and YouTube tutorial videos influenced my choice of DAW the most. I don't have the level of competence to do this well, unfortunately. (I also don't use Mulab as frequently as I probably should, because UI-wise it's the linear, horizontal DAW that by far best resonates with me).

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:36 pm

Personally, I dislike videos and far prefer written instruction. I've never watched any instructional video about anything. All that faffing about with pause unpause switching back and forth between windows is for me too distracting.

Ambient Mechanics · Post by **Ambient Mechanics** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:42 pm

Personally, I think MuLab IS one of the "big boys"..people just haven't realized this yet, but I think they're starting to, as the poll results reflect. MuLab is the only DAW I use..I don't need or want any other..why would or should I? I know others like to focus different parts of their work-flow in different DAWs..and I can understand why they think or feel they need to do things like that..it works for them and it's what they're used to doing.

I think part of the problem, though, is due to the old idea that things need to be BIG in order to be valuable..the more features you have and the more array of buttons on it..the better it will be - that's just not true! I find MuLab's over-all design tops all the others, due to it's "easy-on-the-eye" styling and practical layout in general..you don't have to go hunting through a maze of drop-downs to find things, with all the most commonly used features at your fingertips.

I could go on, but I know I'm preaching to the choir here..we all use it and love it, but..in short..I think we can confidently expect the number of users to grow..slowly perhaps..but steadily all the same.

To all involved in the MuLab project..keep up the good work..it really is appreciated more than you might now.

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