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Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:01 pm

ok do you have anything in mind? I will get recording this evening

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:12 pm

S_A_P wrote:ok do you have anything in mind? I will get recording this evening

Great !

Some DireStraits, Clapton and Hendrix style like,
would be great.
I mean the way they hit the strings...
You know what I mean ?

Thanks man !

wilkoryte · Post by **wilkoryte** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:56 pm

I recorded this kind of Blues

with my cheap yamaha (2 single-coils)

Direct

with j-station

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:11 pm

He, hey wilkoryte, thanks a lot !

Downloading now !!!

Rik · Post by **Rik** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:07 am

Midiworks wrote:
Rik wrote:Hmm that is strange! I had the guitar straight into my bluetube preamp.

Right, I thought something like this !

Please, no treatment at all !!!

Glad I can trust my ears.

Ok ! So here is a better clip and I put more attention to its recording

The guitar is plugged directly into the soundcard this time with input level set a -10db.
http://www.istop.com/~eputrycz/gtr_midiworks_new.mp3

Erik.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:53 am

Rik's NEW ! 1+2 are up !

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockmansoundmusic.htm

Rik, this made a hell of a difference !

MarsHottentot · Post by **MarsHottentot** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:15 am

Hey Midiworks, I have a hybrid Fender Strat Aluminum body (was NOS from the failed '94 series) with a Greg Bailey Aluminum neck. It has a VERY unique character.

Lemme know if you're interested.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:05 pm

MarsHottentot wrote:Hey Midiworks, I have a hybrid Fender Strat Aluminum body (was NOS from the failed '94 series) with a Greg Bailey Aluminum neck. It has a VERY unique character.

Lemme know if you're interested.

Sounds like a very interesting guitar,
yes, it would be nice if you'd play something for my project !

Please, completly dry, no preamp or EQ, just the
pure guitar.

Thanks a lot MarsHottentot !

Rik · Post by **Rik** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:00 pm

Midiworks wrote:Rik's NEW ! 1+2 are up !

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockmansoundmusic.htm

Rik, this made a hell of a difference !

Yes I have to say this sounds way better! I'll run some more tests with my preamp... It is a microphone preamp and is not supposed to impact much the sound, I might be selling a Bluetube preamp soon

One thing I miss in the new tune 1, is on the big chords, my amp tends to sound brighter on them... it is like the eq is neither linear for some strange reasons (I guess tubes?). Same on tune 2... But except this characteristic, it is getting very realistic!!!

Erik.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:35 pm

Rik wrote:Yes I have to say this sounds way better! I'll run some more tests with my preamp... It is a microphone preamp and is not supposed to impact much the sound, I might be selling a Bluetube preamp soon

The buetube sounds fine to my ears !
Its just that I build the plug for direct input of a guitar.

Rik wrote: One thing I miss in the new tune 1, is on the big chords, my amp tends to sound brighter on them... it is like the eq is neither linear for some strange reasons (I guess tubes?). Same on tune 2... But except this characteristic, it is getting very realistic!!!

That was me...

I use expensive studio monitors here and did'nt like that much tops.
I can give you so much tops that they could blow your eardrums...

Rik · Post by **Rik** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:45 pm

Midiworks wrote:
Rik wrote: One thing I miss in the new tune 1, is on the big chords, my amp tends to sound brighter on them... it is like the eq is neither linear for some strange reasons (I guess tubes?). Same on tune 2... But except this characteristic, it is getting very realistic!!!
That was me...
I use expensive studio monitors here and did'nt like that much tops.

Lucky you

My poor Krks need tops!

Midiworks wrote: I can give you so much tops that they could blow your eardrums...

Yeah I think the tops should be there... for some projects, they need to be there so that the guitars strike out of the mixes (eg for solos). And I usually treat amp sims as real tracks, I eq and compress them.

Erik.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:00 pm

Rik wrote: Lucky you My poor Krks need tops!

Want a special mix for you ?

Rik wrote: Yeah I think the tops should be there... for some projects, they need to be there so that the guitars strike out of the mixes (eg for solos).

All depends, how much is too much...

Rik wrote: And I usually treat amp sims as real tracks, I eq and compress them.

There should be no need for that with my plugin !
Everything is right there.

That brings me to another question:
What kind of FX "must" be included ?

Opinions ?

Rik · Post by **Rik** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:38 pm

Midiworks wrote:
Rik wrote: And I usually treat amp sims as real tracks, I eq and compress them.

There should be no need for that with my plugin !
Everything is right there.

I hope there is not too much stuff

If you have an eq, it should be pre-speaker sim, which sounds quite different from post equing the mic.

My wish for an amp sim plug is to have an output as realistic as possible with lots of dynamics and a kind of "raw" sound like recorded out of a microphone.
All the fx layers in the existing amp sims are killing the "feel" of playing in a real amp.
When I play in my mesa, I usually don't use any fx, no eq, no compression.
But then for some projects, I need to eq and compress to put a guitar in the background.

Maybe for the tops, you could make a setting? A presence button? Could you make some demos?

I hope I'm not being too critical

Midiworks wrote: That brings me to another question:
What kind of FX "must" be included ?
Opinions ?

IMO keep it simple... There are tons of great (and free) quality fxes out there (thinking of the Kjaerhus). So I don't think it is worth spending time implementing delay, chorus, phaser nor flanger (I do really love the Kjaerhus ones for theses

... unless you implement exiting vintage ones hehe

The only "fx" that I miss in all the existing amp sims is a rotary speaker (with tempo sync

.

Erik.

wilkoryte · Post by **wilkoryte** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:40 pm

Midiworks wrote: That brings me to another question:
What kind of FX "must" be included ?

I think effects are not essential
I would like to be able to use the cab/speaker sim without amp sim

did you "process" my kind of blues file ?

dimitar · Post by **dimitar** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:44 pm

That brings me to another question:
What kind of FX "must" be included ?

Opinions ?

Hey

in all demos here I heard some reveb and delay

and lilte chorus on my guitars...

1. simple comressor
2. EQ
3. Harmonizer = PitchShifter
4. AND ALL GReat PATCHES on our Demos

Guitar players, The soundclick MP3 demo page got updated !