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fluffy_little_something wrote:I am following this thread because I am looking for a basic DAW, not because I want a free one. But it seems to me that every DAW is getting more and more complex, with zillions of features I never need, while all that added stuff only introduced bugs.
So basically I am looking for an outdated DAW, which used to work very well and reliably, though, when it was current years ago.
Tracktion 4's great for a newb (like me!) for a number of reasons:

1) it's free - with no restrictions and VST 2.4 compatibility - try out/use all the free/demo plugins you want.

2) All its functionality is available from a single screen making it pretty easy to learn (you'll see what I mean if you try it)

2) it also has a very good manual (the last version of Tracktion that had a manual actually)

3) it has a series of training vids (on the Tracktion website) that cover pretty much everything the software can do.

Finally, if after playing around with it you decide you really like it (as I did), upgrading to the latest version will only cost you $60 ($30 if you're running T5 which comes free with some Behringer and Mackie hardware).

Just a really nice, free way to get into using a DAW.

The only downside (in my opinion) is that Tracktion has its own unique way of doing things so if what you really want to do is (say for example) learn ProTools or Logic or similar, Tracktion's way of working won't really prepare you for that style of DAW - you'll know the fundamentals but the workflow will be quite different (which I also consider to be one of Tracktion's strengths but then I'm a filmmaker learning post-production audio - not a musician, composer or music producer).

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jeffh wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am following this thread because I am looking for a basic DAW, not because I want a free one. But it seems to me that every DAW is getting more and more complex, with zillions of features I never need, while all that added stuff only introduced bugs.
Supply and demand. DAW makers are supplying what DAW users demand, which is that every one implements every workflow and feature that every other DAW implements. What was the first thing we all did after we switched to our 2nd DAW? We asked the developer to make it more like our first DAW. By the time you have 20 users, every other DAW is represented in your feature requests :lol:

(but seriously, your only choice is to continuously switch to newer, less mature DAWs, due to aforementioned market forces)
I suppose so, like with the arms race. There are so many weapons we can destroy the world many times over, but do we really want and need that? 8)
That is the downside of competition, it becomes absurd beyond a certain level...

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AegisPrime wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am following this thread because I am looking for a basic DAW, not because I want a free one. But it seems to me that every DAW is getting more and more complex, with zillions of features I never need, while all that added stuff only introduced bugs.
So basically I am looking for an outdated DAW, which used to work very well and reliably, though, when it was current years ago.
Tracktion 4's great for a newb (like me!) for a number of reasons:

1) it's free - with no restrictions and VST 2.4 compatibility - try out/use all the free/demo plugins you want.

2) All its functionality is available from a single screen making it pretty easy to learn (you'll see what I mean if you try it)

2) it also has a very good manual (the last version of Tracktion that had a manual actually)

3) it has a series of training vids (on the Tracktion website) that cover pretty much everything the software can do.

Finally, if after playing around with it you decide you really like it (as I did), upgrading to the latest version will only cost you $60 ($30 if you're running T5 which comes free with some Behringer and Mackie hardware).

Just a really nice, free way to get into using a DAW.

The only downside (in my opinion) is that Tracktion has its own unique way of doing things so if what you really want to do is (say for example) learn ProTools or Logic or similar, Tracktion's way of working won't really prepare you for that style of DAW - you'll know the fundamentals but the workflow will be quite different (which I also consider to be one of Tracktion's strengths but then I'm a filmmaker learning post-production audio - not a musician, composer or music producer).

I remember trying Tracktion about a year ago, but it didn't seem very intuitive, nor very stable. And it was a bit challenging for my old eyes :P

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Zexila wrote:From Cockos:
We also offer classroom licenses and discounted-to-commercial license upgrades. For these and any other license needs, please email licensing@cockos.com.
not free, but you can score bargain for whole class I guess, so they can use really great DAW, beats everything else you can find.
exactly!

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Zexila wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am following this thread because I am looking for a basic DAW, not because I want a free one. But it seems to me that every DAW is getting more and more complex, with zillions of features I never need, while all that added stuff only introduced bugs.
So basically I am looking for an outdated DAW, which used to work very well and reliably, though, when it was current years ago.
Maybe energyXT?

http://www.energy-xt.com/

Maybe if you are lucky enough Emagic Logic 5 pop out on ebay, maybe some older Cubase too.
Cubase's SX series. Although I think it might not be in the cubase archives.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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There are a number of tracker programs as well
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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re. Best free instrument(s).
Orchestra samples:
http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/
Piano Samples:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=302813
Load the samples in https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/

The most popular (not the best but still very good) free analog synth emulation VSTi:
http://www.geocities.jp/daichi1969/softsynth/

And some of the best free effects:
https://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
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energyXT is still single-core?

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for beginning i get in mind, many use a arranger keyboard. and for mulab is this arranger backing band here. maybe somebody can do nice accompany rythms

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fluffy_little_something wrote:energyXT is still single-core?
11. jan - energyXT 3.0 v1 BETA
betaXT30_v1_win.zip (win) | betaXT30_v1_mac.zip (OS X 10.5)
Multi-core support
You can now enter chord names in object-bar to transpose selected notes (chord) to that chord
Added option for velocity pattern in the Arp
Added option to Append part (shift + ctrl + d), will double the content

http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0108
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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Oh, thanks. Not sure I want to be a beta tester so to speak, though 8) Quite a long beta phase, almost a year now :)

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trimph1 wrote:
Zexila wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am following this thread because I am looking for a basic DAW, not because I want a free one. But it seems to me that every DAW is getting more and more complex, with zillions of features I never need, while all that added stuff only introduced bugs.
So basically I am looking for an outdated DAW, which used to work very well and reliably, though, when it was current years ago.
Maybe energyXT?

http://www.energy-xt.com/

Maybe if you are lucky enough Emagic Logic 5 pop out on ebay, maybe some older Cubase too.
Cubase's SX series. Although I think it might not be in the cubase archives.
Yeah, SX3 should do it nicely for today's standards.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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I just saw Tracktion has a Linux version. That sounds interesting, maybe I'll bring an old computer back from the dead to try that.
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The latest Beat Workzone magazine has Tracktion 5 included in 8 gigs worth of content/plugins for 10 euros (including Beatzille!) - not bad:

http://www.falkemedia-shop.de/beat-workzone-2114.html

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