Does MCompressor have sidechain capability? I don't see an option to set it up in FL Studio 12 or Studio One 3.
MCompressor
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- KVRAF
- 2696 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
I think if you click the 4th button on the side chain panel, it will expand. There should be an option to use external side chain. When enabling this option, the input will appear like in your FabFilter example.
Jason @ Melda Production
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 131 posts since 21 Jul, 2012
Tried, no dice.jmg8 wrote:I think if you click the 4th button on the side chain panel, it will expand. There should be an option to use external side chain. When enabling this option, the input will appear like in your FabFilter example.
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- KVRAF
- 2696 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
No. In MDynamics there is a tick box to enable external side chain input. Maybe it's not on MCompressor then. The sidechain you see will just be internal, as you can filter the signal before it is detected.
Jason @ Melda Production
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- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
I dont use MCompressor (i have it disabled as I have the paid Melda ones installed)... but i suspect the side chain is switched if you click the 'power' button, three to the left of the one circled above.
In order, they should be 'power', 'listen to sidechain', 'help' and 'expand/hide this section'.
In order, they should be 'power', 'listen to sidechain', 'help' and 'expand/hide this section'.
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- Banned
- 1132 posts since 21 Feb, 2015
Hey, vectorwarrior, in your view, how do the Melda dynamic processors (and E.Q.s too), stack up against other stuff that you have used?
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- KVRAF
- 2696 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
I can honestly say that Melda plugins are by far the most powerful processors I have used and I've used a lot! Nothing really comes close in terms of flexibility, power and sound quality. They are mostly for power users, however there is the easy mode for beginners too, the prices are very competitive. So you really can't loose. Highly recommend and I've been in studios doing mixing and sound design for 15 years now.
Jason @ Melda Production
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- Banned
- 1132 posts since 21 Feb, 2015
That is quite a bold statement to make, in the year 2015, with computers & software development where it is...go and tell that to Hofa, or Fabfilter. How about Brainworx, maybe Slate...jmg8 wrote:I can honestly say that Melda plugins are by far the most powerful processors I have used and I've used a lot! Nothing really comes close in terms of flexibility, power and sound quality.
I mainly have experience with the creative bundle, so was asking more along the lines of mixing/ mastering stuff. Because Vojtech likes to remind us that he is specifically not into old fashioned emulations, but rather more innovative digital stuff...so I'm basically just making conversation on KVR...
Maybe I'm just asking for opinions on how Melda's modern approach measures up to all the other stuff, especially in the dynamics & E.Q. departments.
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- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Grizzellda - I'm a sound designer by trade (video games) so my requirements are different to most people on KVR (who do music). For me melda are the best in the industry purely because of their flexibility.
I've been doing sound design professionaly for 15 years now and so have used all sorts of tools in that time. I mostly used Waves at my last job (EA) but got the opportunity to purpose build my setup when I started my current job, after lots of investigation I went 100% Melda.
As someone not working in music, I don't need tools that sound just like something the Beatles used in the 60's. I don't care about that. I need to be able to push sounds as far as possible, totally wrecking havoc on them. This is where Melda steps up.
The interesting thing about having flexibility is the ability to mimic other things. A lot of sound designers make a big deal about Decapitator by Soundtoys. I checked out the demo recently and was able to replicate the sound in 3 different Melda tools using spectral analysis. I've done that with a few things. The hilarious thing is that Melda are cheaper than the less flexible tools they can emulate.
The downside is that they require a serious time investment to get the most out of them, and the manuals don't make that easy. Out of the box they don't shine as well as some tools, you've got to spend more time learning their quirks and obviously the somewhat overwhelming (at first) interfaces. But they're definitely worth it, and they all share common features so you only have to learn certain things once.
Oh, plus Melda is the best hands down for customer support, specifically feature requests. And lifetime updates too!
Sorry, long answer to a short question
Essentially, for music, I guess it depends on whether accurate vintage replication is important to you, if not Melda are the best IMO.
I've been doing sound design professionaly for 15 years now and so have used all sorts of tools in that time. I mostly used Waves at my last job (EA) but got the opportunity to purpose build my setup when I started my current job, after lots of investigation I went 100% Melda.
As someone not working in music, I don't need tools that sound just like something the Beatles used in the 60's. I don't care about that. I need to be able to push sounds as far as possible, totally wrecking havoc on them. This is where Melda steps up.
The interesting thing about having flexibility is the ability to mimic other things. A lot of sound designers make a big deal about Decapitator by Soundtoys. I checked out the demo recently and was able to replicate the sound in 3 different Melda tools using spectral analysis. I've done that with a few things. The hilarious thing is that Melda are cheaper than the less flexible tools they can emulate.
The downside is that they require a serious time investment to get the most out of them, and the manuals don't make that easy. Out of the box they don't shine as well as some tools, you've got to spend more time learning their quirks and obviously the somewhat overwhelming (at first) interfaces. But they're definitely worth it, and they all share common features so you only have to learn certain things once.
Oh, plus Melda is the best hands down for customer support, specifically feature requests. And lifetime updates too!
Sorry, long answer to a short question
Essentially, for music, I guess it depends on whether accurate vintage replication is important to you, if not Melda are the best IMO.-
- KVRAF
- 2696 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
Ok, for mixing and mastering. Let's do a little comparison. Before I start I should point out that i think Hofa make very good plugins and have been a fan for a long time. But let's compare MAutoDynamicEQ to IQEQv3 here are a few things that melda can do that hofa cannot:Grizzellda wrote:That is quite a bold statement to make, in the year 2015, with computers & software development where it is...go and tell that to Hofa, or Fabfilter. How about Brainworx, maybe Slate...jmg8 wrote:I can honestly say that Melda plugins are by far the most powerful processors I have used and I've used a lot! Nothing really comes close in terms of flexibility, power and sound quality.
I mainly have experience with the creative bundle, so was asking more along the lines of mixing/ mastering stuff. Because Vojtech likes to remind us that he is specifically not into old fashioned emulations, but rather more innovative digital stuff...so I'm basically just making conversation on KVR...
Maybe I'm just asking for opinions on how Melda's modern approach measures up to all the other stuff, especially in the dynamics & E.Q. departments.
There is a pitch modulator, that tracks the inputs pitch and can modulate any parameter in the plugin. So you can use the EQ to be musical.
There is harmonic control of all bands allowing you to control the harmonic relationship of the fundamental and it's harmonics.
The dynamic control of each band has a LOT of options, allowing you to control the RMS length, look ahead, auto release and attack and release transfer curves to name a few.
A follower modulator that has control over transient detection, so can be used as a transient processor.
Saturation.
LFO, step sequencer and custom shape modulators to control any parameter allowing for creative effects.
Multiparameters to control more than one parameter for custom setups. Including a banks mode and all with transfer curves for the range.
Batch processing for rendering wav files.
Auto EQ to match another signal, allowing to copy the frequencies of other material. Great for mastering.
Auto EQ to make two signal NOT sound like each other great for avoiding frequency clashing of tracks.
Random modulator.
Ability to morph between 4 completely different instances of the plugin.
Online preset exchange.
Easy mode for beginners.
Randomize almost all parameters. Also lock parameters to bypass the randomization for that parameter.
Sonogram.
Free for life updates.
A developer that listens to your ideas and regularly adds new feature requests.
MAutoDynamicEQ = €99
IQ-EQ v3 = €129.90
Can you name anything that the hofa EQ can do that the Melda one can't?
Jason @ Melda Production
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- Banned
- 1132 posts since 21 Feb, 2015
Well fellas, I asked for some conversation & got university essays! 
Hey, I truly appreciate all of your ideas...and the exhaustive effort required to write them down! But hey, you guys don't have to convince me that Melda plugs are powerful & flexible, I've known that for awhile. As far as my concerns about mixing, well I suppose I will just have to demo some compressors & find out for myself.
But you know something, guys, to me it isn't simply about clinical sound or the number of features...when I open up a plug-in it is a kind of esoteric thing, how it makes me feel, and the GUI is huge there. And the Melda GUI...well...while it is very practical, it is not so inspiring.
When I open a synth that I like, say Hive or z3ta 2, it makes me feel like rock n' roll. But when I open up MPowerSynth, it looks like a f**k*n spreadsheet, and spreadsheets don't really make me want to play music. Oh, I realize the oscillators are very good, etcetera, but still....
I know we are Melda fans here, or we wouldn't be discussing stuff, but I guess my point is that "variety is the spice of life"...those other companies I mentioned make beautiful software too. I will get the Total Bundle when I can afford it, but I will always use plug-ins from a variety of good companies.
Hey, I truly appreciate all of your ideas...and the exhaustive effort required to write them down! But hey, you guys don't have to convince me that Melda plugs are powerful & flexible, I've known that for awhile. As far as my concerns about mixing, well I suppose I will just have to demo some compressors & find out for myself.
But you know something, guys, to me it isn't simply about clinical sound or the number of features...when I open up a plug-in it is a kind of esoteric thing, how it makes me feel, and the GUI is huge there. And the Melda GUI...well...while it is very practical, it is not so inspiring.
When I open a synth that I like, say Hive or z3ta 2, it makes me feel like rock n' roll. But when I open up MPowerSynth, it looks like a f**k*n spreadsheet, and spreadsheets don't really make me want to play music. Oh, I realize the oscillators are very good, etcetera, but still....
I know we are Melda fans here, or we wouldn't be discussing stuff, but I guess my point is that "variety is the spice of life"...those other companies I mentioned make beautiful software too. I will get the Total Bundle when I can afford it, but I will always use plug-ins from a variety of good companies.
Well, I haven't used either one of these so I cannot give you any kind of solid answer here. Good question though.jmg8 wrote: Can you name anything that the hofa EQ can do that the Melda one can't?
Cool man...yeah, I think I can dig where you are coming from here...you want results! Not a Pultec emulation. Righteous!vectorwarrior wrote:Grizzellda - I'm a sound designer by trade (video games) so my requirements are different to most people on KVR (who do music). For me melda are the best in the industry purely because of their flexibility.
I've been doing sound design professionaly for 15 years now and so have used all sorts of tools in that time. I mostly used Waves at my last job (EA) but got the opportunity to purpose build my setup when I started my current job, after lots of investigation I went 100% Melda.
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- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Haha, yeah, I guess power synth is a bit of a spreadsheet. Something like serum is more inspiring musically and I must admit I prefer waves for accessibility. But I've been forced to use certain tools by studios in the past and honestly once you get "over the hump" even the most unpleasant UI becomes normal after a while... so I tend to acknowledge that any initial frustration is just temporary.