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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:37 am

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rustman · Post by **rustman** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:43 am

TheoM wrote:
rustman wrote:Looks like 8.5 doesn't remember your plugin manager settings. I spent a long time tweaking the folder structure last night and it's gone today. Still crashes my system when scanning plugins too. I don't use any 32 bit plugins anymore (no wrappers) just to try and reduce this hassle.
Mac or windows?

i think the best thing right now is to wait a few months for final release.

perhaps if i upgrade to 8.5 when 9 has been announced, i can pay the $50 USD and get into 9 for free.. nothing wrong with using 8.03 for the next few months, nothing at all.

Windows 64 bit.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:43 am

LFM, you need to change the title to "it's here" or something similar

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:49 am

TheoM wrote:A 2 year old OS being dropped from support is more or less outrageous. In fact that makes it even a bit dangerous for any cubase user to even think they will be able to keep upgrading cubase on their current OS.. cause steinberg are really out of control here.

Stienberg are far from alone. Current plus previous 2 OSs seems to be the support window for many developers. That's 2-3 years on a Mac, 9-10 years on Windows (and as good a reason to go for the latter as I can think of). Windows 10 might muddy those waters a little, with rolling updates.

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:02 am

incubus wrote:LFM, you need to change the title to "it's here" or something similar

Ok, so you like long threads - "you next guitar" and similar.

But updated title a bit then...

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:00 am

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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:00 am

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el-bo (formerly ebow) · Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:14 am

TheoM wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
TheoM wrote:They have already discontinued 10.9 support.

it's true! it might work, but not officially anymore. 8.030 is the last version they "officially" support on mavericks.

As you can see a couple posters above already notice the same thing, like I said in my large post above.

And those posters are correct. A 2 year old OS being dropped from support is more or less outrageous. In fact that makes it even a bit dangerous for any cubase user to even think they will be able to keep upgrading cubase on their current OS.. cause steinberg are really out of control here.

I am telling you Cubase 9 won't even support yosemite. Calling it now. And no way will i ever use that junk el capitan. It's incompatible with so many products it's ridiculous.

*maybe* by Cubase 9, all stuff like UAD, other plugins from many brands, hardware drivers.. WILL all be compatible with el capitan.

But imagine having a perfectly working system with all your plugins and software and you upgrade over an existing OS so you can use Cubase 9..too many variables at play IMO.. the only way is to do a reformat and reinstall everything but that's a huge PITA. I hope steinberg do not expect me to format and reinstall my machine every year just to keep up to date with Cubase.

pure laziness, especially considering the price of their product

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:24 pm

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:pure laziness, especially considering the price of their product

I have more than my fair share of beefs with Steinberg and 8.5, but to describe dropping support for old OSs as "lazy" is kinda silly. Like they're all playing Angry Birds and swinging round on swivel chairs now that 10.9 isn't supported.

I get their rationale. Each OS that is supported adds time to every single feature and bug fix. And this really isn't a new problem, not just from DAW manufacturers, but developers in general. People draw the lines differently of course, but they all have this same problem. Native Instruments are exactly the same - the last OS is currently 10.9, come the next OS update it too will be dropped. The root issue is Apple's bonkers insistence on updating their OS every year. In this regard, Mac users will always have a life of pain.

But not to be smug - I think Windows users will eventually face something similar, with rolling Windows updates, and its a real problem. On the one hand, we all accept that jumping straight onto a new OS is a dumb thing to do. But on the other, we can't stay still either, as support and updates for many projects get deprecated, sometimes pretty quickly. The old notion of a static computer not connected to the net and never updated is getting less and less tenable. The best solution is to be behind the curve, but not by too much.

Anyway, all OT, sorry for the tangent.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:40 pm

noiseboyuk wrote: The old notion of a static computer not connected to the net and never updated is getting less and less tenable. The best solution is to be behind the curve, but not by too much.

It works for other people... my DAW laptop is always offline, and will never be updated from Windows 7.

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:50 pm

That is my plan. If new things won't work on Win 7, then I may have to start over with a new machine and OS and begin building a collection of newer things. The 7 machine will stay as it is, and I'll export tracks over to the new one if I must. I see no reason why I couldn't produce nearly anything using what I already have. The capabilities far exceed the exhuberence of my fleeting muse and declining energy levels.
But yeah, it worries me.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:39 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
noiseboyuk wrote: The old notion of a static computer not connected to the net and never updated is getting less and less tenable. The best solution is to be behind the curve, but not by too much.
It works for other people... my DAW laptop is always offline, and will never be updated from Windows 7.

...and that's all good provided you never want to update anything on it, or add anything to it.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:41 pm

Seems to be an interesting update and better than expected. Unfortunately I had no time yet to test all this new stuff, maybe this weekend.

I don't see so much changed with Retrologue 2... afaik there is now a 3rd oscillator? Has somebody played a bit with this synth? Opinions?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:46 pm

4damind wrote: I don't see so much changed with Retrologue 2... afaik there is now a 3rd oscillator? Has somebody played a bit with this synth? Opinions?

There's some opinions and feedback here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6318464 There's quite a bit which has changed in Retrologue actually.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:51 pm

noiseboyuk wrote:
T-CM11 wrote:
noiseboyuk wrote: The old notion of a static computer not connected to the net and never updated is getting less and less tenable. The best solution is to be behind the curve, but not by too much.
It works for other people... my DAW laptop is always offline, and will never be updated from Windows 7.
...and that's all good provided you never want to update anything on it, or add anything to it.

Why can't I update anything on it? Or add to it?

Not that I'll be adding a lot, I have more than enough music software to do anything I want.

Cubase 8.5 here any day now...and the day has come