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Compyfox wrote:
chk071 wrote:Edit: Just read this:
Compyfox wrote:Didn't you want to get me banned anyway? Best chance to do so via this route. See how far you can get with that.

ta-ta! :tu:
Talking of borderline, that's borderline paranoid.
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chk071 wrote:Tbh, i don't know why you haven't been banned yet for the stuff you're producing on these forums since years. But you obviously know well how far you can go without being banned, so kudos to you, job well done. :tu: But then, i don't think your brainfarts have to remain uncommented, so just consider this post a feedback to your nonsense
Can be taken as being "paranoid", but also taken as a treat (plus a bonus insult). What I do know for sure, is that this is definitely a personal thing at this point. YMMV and... red exclamation mark top right. Just a reminder (hint hint!).
There is a difference between wondering why someone hasn't been banned yet, or wanting someone to be banned. If i had written "Please ban Compyfox", i would have understood your point, but i have not. Again, you misunderstand things, the same way you confuse your personal grudge against the company with valid points about their business practices. There's emo BS dripping out of every line you write here. And there's a lot of those. Actually tl;dr.

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    VitaminD wrote:No, that doesn't answer my question quite yet.

    Can I install two 64 bit versions of Cubase (for instance Cubase 7.5 x64 and Cubase 8.5 x64) on Windows 10 and keep them in separate locations on the hard drive without them interfering with one another?
    I think you should be able to. I have done it with S1v3 in 2 different versions.
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    VitaminD wrote:
    Josmoker wrote:I can confirm this for Cubase. I have
    - Cubase 5 32bit
    - Cubase 5 64bit
    - Cubase 7 64bit
    - Cubase 8 64bit
    all installed on my PC.
    I missed this post under the avalanche of other posts.

    What happens when you double click on a CPR? Does it know which version of Cubase to load? Have you seen any anomalies between your C7 and C8 installations?
    It will I think use the latest version, but in windows you can select default program, mac too I believe.. if you want to open in an older version, open the application first then navigate to the project you want to open.
    rsp
    sound sculptist

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    chk071 wrote:There is a difference between wondering why someone hasn't been banned yet, or wanting someone to be banned. If i had written "Please ban Compyfox", i would have understood your point, but i have not. Again, you misunderstand things, the same way you confuse your personal grudge against the company with valid points about their business practices. There's emo BS dripping out of every line you write here. And there's a lot of those. Actually tl;dr.
    Didn't I say "can be seen as this, can be seen as that?" - you're treading on very thin ice here. And I don't treat threats and insults lightly anymore. However, with each consecutive post of yours, you step further and further over the line. Yet you are not the least at fault. Same situation as with some other user from two days ago.

    Yoink! Using the "foe" function it is.
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    DodgingRain wrote:Where are people finding anything from Steinberg about dropping 32 bit?
    http://www.steinberg.net/en/newsandeven ... -3469.html
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    Compyfox wrote:I think we're on the way to that. At this stage, I think either a maintenance update might still see an "arranger UI" overhaul, or C9 latest. Most of the stuff was already addressed. Not fully, but still.

    (more control over the metering settings would be nice for sure, especially the EBU R-128 type one)
    yup, there's always room for improvement. i'll be loving life with an embedded transport (sort of do-able now in the arrange/mix windows, but it's not even optional in the midi editor). i'd love track view filtering ala the arrangement and mixer windows in the midi editor as well. i tend to use each of those 3 windows full-screen...

    i must confess, that while there's always room for improvement, re: metering, i find it to be a good sight better than many already (i LOVE being able to define custom colors for levels, ala PT, for instance, and easy pre/post metering makes life sooo much easier for setting vsti output levels, etc). i mostly use k-metering on the master, so there's not much to set up there. i am curious as to what sort of changes would you like to see in the EBU variant?
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    Compyfox wrote:
    DodgingRain wrote:Where are people finding anything from Steinberg about dropping 32 bit?
    http://www.steinberg.net/en/newsandeven ... -3469.html
    :o So after Propellerhead made Reason 64-bit only, Cubase will be 64-bit only too. Can't say i don't understand that decision though. The percentage of 64-bit computers running Cubase is probably high enough, and you can always bridge 32-bit stuff, if you really need it, to justify concentrating on the 64-bit version only.

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    chk071 wrote:
    Compyfox wrote:
    DodgingRain wrote:Where are people finding anything from Steinberg about dropping 32 bit?
    http://www.steinberg.net/en/newsandeven ... -3469.html
    :o So after Propellerhead made Reason 64-bit only, Cubase will be 64-bit only too. ...
    So is Logic Pro 10, and AVID ProTools (drop of RTAS in favor for AAX 64bit).
    Definitely nothing new, and hinted at for years already.

    (also, the third time this link was posted)



    kelldammit wrote:yup, there's always room for improvement. i'll be loving life with an embedded transport (sort of do-able now in the arrange/mix windows, but it's not even optional in the midi editor). i'd love track view filtering ala the arrangement and mixer windows in the midi editor as well. i tend to use each of those 3 windows full-screen...
    I'd love to see a modular connection system like in S1 (which is also extended with the "Remote Control Engine") and/or FLStudio. I do use modular subhosts already - but it's just not the same.


    kelldammit wrote:i must confess, that while there's always room for improvement, re: metering, i find it to be a good sight better than many already (i LOVE being able to define custom colors for levels, ala PT, for instance, and easy pre/post metering makes life sooo much easier for setting vsti output levels, etc). i mostly use k-metering on the master, so there's not much to set up there. i am curious as to what sort of changes would you like to see in the EBU variant?
    A couple of things:
    a) I mainly use Digital Peak and realtime RMS/VU meters during mixing and shoot for -18dBFS avg on mixdowns (so no K-System needed)
    b) I only use K-System metering while mastering, and even so: my v2 concept (which uses the EBU R-128/ITU-R BS.1770-x ballistics, but a custom reference level and custom color codes - see my KVR Marks)



    What is already possible:
    Custom Color codes for the "Channel" meter and independent for the "Master Meter". Color code for the Master Meter affects all presets (Digital Peak, DIN meter, K-System) but not the "EBU R-128 meter". I have them set up like this:
    Channel: -inf to -18dBFS = green, -18dBFS to -6dBFS = yellow, -6dBFS to +inf = red
    Master: -inf to -18dBFS = green, -18dBFS to -3dBFS = yellow, -3dBFS to +inf = red

    How I'd love to set up the EBU R-128 meter (currently not possible):
    Custom Reference Level: 0-point = reference i.e. -23, -20, -16 (also see new AES TD1004.1.15-10 whitepaper), -14, -12 LUFS
    Color code: -inf to reference level = green, reference to +3 (or +3 offset of reference, e.g. -16 reference +3 = -13) = yellow, +3 (or +3 offset of reference) = red



    What I'd love to see in a future update (actually, since it was implemented with C7):

    Bar minimum:
    - custom color codes for the EBU R-128 meter
    - custom reference level setting (which changes the scale) and/or better meter scale settings - actually, why not scratch the "EBU R-128" meter (which are fixed settings) and offer a fully configurable ITU-R BS.1770-3 (as of this moment) spec meter (no limitations in terms of setup, settings see above)?

    Bonus (not necessarily needed - i can work either way):
    - maybe weighting filters for the RMS meter
    - Digital Peak and RMS view not inline on the master meter, but side by side
    - Channel meters in the "look" of Dorrough meters. Or like the master meter: inline Digital Peak/RMS (see Master Meter) - but this needs to be configurable in terms of ballistics (RMS realtime/VU 300ms unweighted, 600ms unweighted)


    To me, this would be a logical update.


    Along with "Horizontal plugin bypass" in the mix console (I have a strict plugin order per channel strip), and more than 6+2 inserts (6 pre, 2 post - I think more along the lines of 8+2 or 8+4). Maybe also "select all WAV files, right click, consolidate" (as it is possible in PT). I mean, I can dream. Especially if the Mix Console was heavily... er... inspired by the PT Mix Console.
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    The only thing that is potentially scary is when the day comes that Cubase will no longer run on Win 7/64. I think that is probably a ways off. I'll most definitely be way behind on hardware by then, but currently, my plan is to stop upgrading when 7 isn't an option.

    VitaminD- another confirmation here: I have C7, C7.5, C8, and C8.5 (all 64 bit) on my machine, all of which work independantly of each other. What someone (my apologies, I forgot who) above said- I do believe that Windows will have only 1 default app to open a double-clicked .CPR. You can always right click and use "open with". :tu:
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    Hello,
    VitaminD wrote:No, that doesn't answer my question quite yet.

    Can I install two 64 bit versions of Cubase (for instance Cubase 7.5 x64 and Cubase 8.5 x64) on Windows 10 and keep them in separate locations on the hard drive without them interfering with one another?
    Yes you can.
    What happens when you double click on a CPR? Does it know which version of Cubase to load? Have you seen any anomalies between your C7 and C8 installations?
    If you directly click on a CPR it will be open with the latest version installed on your system, E.g. Cubase Pro 8.5. Unless you right click on top of it and select open with and select the Cubase version you want to use.

    Best regards,
    GN
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    VitaminD wrote:
    Josmoker wrote:I can confirm this for Cubase. I have
    - Cubase 5 32bit
    - Cubase 5 64bit
    - Cubase 7 64bit
    - Cubase 8 64bit
    all installed on my PC.
    I missed this post under the avalanche of other posts.

    What happens when you double click on a CPR? Does it know which version of Cubase to load? Have you seen any anomalies between your C7 and C8 installations?
    From memory it loads whatever version it was created in.

    Simple question for people - who do you determine if a plugin is 32 or 64 bit? I'm trying to work out if Emulator X3 is 64bit - something on the vendor's site suggests it might be. There are other plugins I need to look at too.
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    Hello,

    32 bit plug-ins get installed in the program files (x86) folder, and 64 bit programs in the normal program files folder.

    Best regards,
    GN
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    Steinberg
    Hamburg, Germany
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    ChamomileShark wrote:.....
    Simple question for people - who do you determine if a plugin is 32 or 64 bit? I'm trying to work out if Emulator X3 is 64bit - something on the vendor's site suggests it might be......
    Emulator does come with both 64 and 32 bit versions. I have it.
    Alas I also had several issues with it and Nuendo, don't quite remember them now alas.
    rsp
    sound sculptist

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    Just out of interest, are there spilt user folders too (in the Windows user folders) when you have both 32-bit and 64-bit installed? Same when you have for example version 8 and 8.5 installed?

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