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jsp1979 · Post by **jsp1979** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:23 am

Dune 1 sounds great and there are a *ton* of great patches out there for it (and they don't load into Dune 2).

So, that's one reason to pick it up.

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:09 am

jsp1979 wrote:Dune 1 sounds great and there are a *ton* of great patches out there for it (and they don't load into Dune 2).

So, that's one reason to pick it up.

Exactly. If I were to get into programming yet another synth, Dune 2 would be my choice. But as I said Dune 1 has many great patches available, often free- for example, Rob Lee's 212 patch Big Patch for Dune.

kbaccki · Post by **kbaccki** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:21 am

Dune 2 is so easy to program even an idiot like me can do it. Highly recommended, especially if you can get it for 100 clams.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:51 am

4damind wrote:I think the design of Dune2 is very unique. There are not so many synth with a similar layering/unison feature like Dune2.
The GUI design/colors are of course a matter of taste. I use the default gray color theme and I like it. I've also tested this Sandflower theme.. yes, it looks nice and it's different but I'm happy with the default theme.

For me is Dune2 some of this desert island synth.

I agree with the above. It could be also my desert island synth.

I had DuneBE (almost Dune 1 without the effects), but it is a different synth. There are some similarities but they are few for me! Dune 2 is almost a new synth. Anyway, I prefer Dune 2 in both sound and GUI.

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:12 am

I got the CM version a long time ago but wanted to get the whole show. I'd written them off as never having a sale and moved on. That is NOT to say that it isn't worth the regular price. If I didn't have pretty much every instrument that I know of that I want, I'd have likely bought Dune 2 before now. When this sale popped, that's all it took. I'm actually more impressed with it than I thought I would be. Foremost, it's easy to understand for me, and I like a lot of the patches it ships with. The ability to tweek the unison voices separately should be interesting.

mrj1nx · Post by **mrj1nx** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:19 am

Grabbed this now on the sale, very nice! This may be the one I put an effort into really learning how to program.

Question: I have Antidote for Reason, also have the Soundcells Antidote Signature pack with patches, is there a way to convert patches? I read that one of the guitar patches in the "plucked" category was converted from antidote.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:52 am

have dune2 already and dunno about getting dune1 too cause dune2 already covers it up doesnt it?

RichieWitch · Post by **RichieWitch** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:20 pm

Interesting behavior I bumped into last night.... I use Ableton Live and I normally add the patch-related CC information to my MIDI clips. This causes Dune 2 to automatically switch to the patch that was used every time the clip is played. So I can have multiple MIDI clips on a track, and Dune 2 will just switch to whatever patch is needed to play each clip. Saves me from complex MIDI routing or multiple instances of Dune 2.

But... with the addition of the Xmas bonus patches, my patch library is now too big to be contained in the range of available CC information. Ambient library B is beyond the last available "Sub bank" CC number (86). This would not be an issue if Dune 2 also recognized the "Bank" CC number, but alas.... no.

I hate to start combining patch libraries--I have most of the commercially available ones. And of course, if I change the library structure in any way, all the existing CC numbers will point to the wrong patches, so.... just a pain.

Anyway, heads up to anyone who also uses this technique. There is a logical limit.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:46 am

Interesting behavior I bumped into last night.... I use Ableton Live and I normally add the patch-related CC information to my MIDI clips. This causes Dune 2 to automatically switch to the patch that was used every time the clip is played. So I can have multiple MIDI clips on a track, and Dune 2 will just switch to whatever patch is needed to play each clip. Saves me from complex MIDI routing or multiple instances of Dune 2.

Or it can waste hours of guesswork if you accidentally record patch switch into a clip

Been there, did that.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:33 pm

This new analog mode for the envelopes is a big improvement for all kind of pluck sounds. I think EDM/Trance people will like it and it could make Dune2 also more interesting for this guys. I have not compared it 1:1 to other "typical" synth like Spire or Sylenth but my first impression is very good.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:40 pm

4damind wrote:This new analog mode for the envelopes is a big improvement for all kind of pluck sounds.

Yes, it is. Weird envelope behaviour was my main complaint with regards to Dune 2 which kept me from using it for many tasks requiring good snappy envelopes, but this seems to be fixed now. (I'm an EDM/Trance guy btw

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Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:44 pm

They sound lovely. Recently, Sami from Aiyn Zahev sounds, told me he is working hard on a new DUNE 2 soundbank, and that the new features in 2.5 might be the reason why he's finally going to make a soundbank for it. That they take the synth to a new level, because they are so important for plucks, basses and other transient heavy material.

...And just wait until when the wavetable creator is finally finished and integrated into DUNE 2 in 2016. A whole new story.

kurodo · Post by **kurodo** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:52 pm

The new analog style envelopes and xp filters improve Dune2 by quite a lot.
Agree with 4damind, plucks just got a lot better.
Great update for sure.

kbaccki · Post by **kbaccki** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:08 pm

Yorrrrrr wrote:Sami from Aiyn Zahev sounds, told me he is working hard on a new DUNE 2 soundbank

Ooh. Gonna have to put that on the list. Excellent stuff over there.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:22 pm

Yorrrrrr wrote:They sound lovely. Recently, Sami from Aiyn Zahev sounds, told me he is working hard on a new DUNE 2 soundbank, and that the new features in 2.5 might the reason why he's finally going to make a soundbank for it. That they take the synth to a new level, because they are so important for plucks, basses and other transient heavy material.

Yeah, i remember him posting something similar when Dune 2 was out for a short time, that he was hoping for taking it to the next level after Dune 1, which in his opinion didn't happen or something similar. Nice that Synapse listen to the niggles the people have with Dune, and decide to bring new features. The new envelope behavior seems nice listening to demos. That was actually one major issue i had with Dune 2, and already with Dune 1, the envelopes. Just no bang. Seems much better now.

DUNE 2 is out now!!