After my attempts with the midi loop backdriver and Mulab with the composer : it seems to be impossible to get the same nice sounds as in mulab with this setup.
The automation transfer is also troublesome/impossible
Ok , i forget about that setup with the loopbackdriver, now i focus on using MUX in the composer
What can i do with the MUX as Vsti, besides selecting a sound for it on a track ?
Is there a session setup possible ..like in Mulab ?
Now it is not possible to use the gain (volume slider ) of the MUX, because the synth is not enclosed in a rack...so that's the first thing to do ..how to get the synth in a rack from a MUX ?... the mixer in the composer is useless for the volume of the MUX synth.
mux as Vsti in composer
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
MuX is a contained for modules, not a fixed entity. You'll have to explain what you're talking about better. A MuX can contain modules that form many things - effects, instruments, combinations of the two, sequences players, racks, everything you see in the MuLab Session MuX can appear inside a VST MuX. In fact, there's really no reason to use the VST MuX inside MuLab, as you can just use a normal MuX and do everything inside that. The VST version doesn't add anything -- it just encapsulates the MuX for other VST hosts. Once you're inside it, it works like being inside any MuX.
The VST interface then allows for audio, event and automation sources to be routed in based on what the VST declares to the outside world and outputs audio and event data. This is, of course, different to how the internal MuX works, as it's not constrained by the VST interface.
The VST interface then allows for audio, event and automation sources to be routed in based on what the VST declares to the outside world and outputs audio and event data. This is, of course, different to how the internal MuX works, as it's not constrained by the VST interface.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
Thanks!
Last year i was interesting to use a multitimbral mux ( HALion Vsti) in the composer..lot of post about it ( when i read it again)
I got a setup mux from @Taron with a midichannel splitter .. so i loaded it again now in the mux of the composer and it seems that i do have now 16 midichannels with racks .
Perhaps 32 midi channels is better.. i double the channel splitter in the @Taron mux setup to get more midi channels?
That is not that easyYou'll have to explain what you're talking about better
Last year i was interesting to use a multitimbral mux ( HALion Vsti) in the composer..lot of post about it ( when i read it again)
I got a setup mux from @Taron with a midichannel splitter .. so i loaded it again now in the mux of the composer and it seems that i do have now 16 midichannels with racks .
Perhaps 32 midi channels is better.. i double the channel splitter in the @Taron mux setup to get more midi channels?
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
MIDI only has 16 channels. You can't change that fact.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
I do have now a a panel with 16 racks and do want to extend this to 32 racks...so i add a second rack in the composer what has also a rackpanel
Problem now that the audioengine of the composer chrashes all the time..so there seems to be something wrong
Further i don't know if the composer stores also the panel configuration: i like to have all 16 racks open with the master track when i load a composer template with Mux
Problem now that the audioengine of the composer chrashes all the time..so there seems to be something wrong
Further i don't know if the composer stores also the panel configuration: i like to have all 16 racks open with the master track when i load a composer template with Mux
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
I don't know yet how to make out of a Mux.. a panel with 16 racks ..there is no starting panel empty to choose.
I use for now the rackpanel from @Taron and put it on another audio engine number in the composer ( it gets it own rack in the composer )
- there is a rackpanel on engine 1:05
- there is a rackpanel on engine 1:06
I use for now the rackpanel from @Taron and put it on another audio engine number in the composer ( it gets it own rack in the composer )
- there is a rackpanel on engine 1:05
- there is a rackpanel on engine 1:06
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
Now i want to use a rack from mulab in the MUX vsti ... so i like the racksound and let me put it in my composer ..how to do this?
There is no option : export Rack ??
There is no option : export Rack ??
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- KVRAF
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
I do have here a project example with a selfmade user soundmodule in it .. well i like this to have this soundmodule as rack sound module in my composer ..
Copy the modular content of this selfmade soundmodule to another place to rebuild it seems to be complicated , because there is a panel attached to it ( probably i must make the panel again ? ) in order to getthe soundmodule working?
Only capable of export the sound itself with the panel is helpful, then other modules in session modular aera can be rebuild in my composer..like a effect, bandequalizer , balance , mixer strip , etc
Perhaps i am on the wrong direction with this ?
Copy the modular content of this selfmade soundmodule to another place to rebuild it seems to be complicated , because there is a panel attached to it ( probably i must make the panel again ? ) in order to getthe soundmodule working?
Only capable of export the sound itself with the panel is helpful, then other modules in session modular aera can be rebuild in my composer..like a effect, bandequalizer , balance , mixer strip , etc
Perhaps i am on the wrong direction with this ?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
Ok i solved this by using a preset.. i load the preset in a composer rack ..very easy this..only other modules must be added by hand if needed in the mux modular aera
Nothing in the way as it seems to get the same nice sounds in the composer .. only when the sound is automated it is not to rebuild from a project file in Mulab ( but there was maybe a way to do this ..see other topic post )
Nothing in the way as it seems to get the same nice sounds in the composer .. only when the sound is automated it is not to rebuild from a project file in Mulab ( but there was maybe a way to do this ..see other topic post )
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- KVRAF
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Are you after something like the following
Reaper As you can see there are four racks visible on the front panel each with a different sound going to midi channels 1 - 4 but it would be no problem adding more.
Reaper As you can see there are four racks visible on the front panel each with a different sound going to midi channels 1 - 4 but it would be no problem adding more.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 203 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
I am trying now to get a drumsound in the composer-the same nice quality as in Mulab- exported the midi and use the drumpreset in the composer, but there is a difference in drum sound .. stupid.. 
( i see post are crossed )
Also possible with a rackpanel with 16 midichannels , you can open then the needed racks
( i see post are crossed )
Also possible with a rackpanel with 16 midichannels , you can open then the needed racks
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- KVRAF
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Just tried that preset in Reaper and it sounds the same as in Mulab to me so it must be something to do with Composer
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