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Autobot · Post by **Autobot** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:05 pm

I tested Hive for a couple of hours and find it quite inspiring but I cant get rid of the feeling that all sound are also possible with some Zebra patches and tweaks. Am I the only one? What are thinking all those user?

maurone dj · Post by **maurone dj** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:24 pm

I own Zebra and Hive and they're 2 different beasts.
The sound is really different, and so the workflow.
If you don't think about a particular sound and just start to experiment you'll end up with 2 totally different sounds so I think this alone will be worth.

Again, as with all synths in the world (IMHO) you can do every sound you can think with any instruments, so it's only about personal taste.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:03 pm

Actually, I asked myself that same question, and then tried to replicate certain Hive patches in Zebra. You can get close, but it's not the same. So I wouldn't say it's "necessary", but it offers something a bit different. Hive really lends itself to those bigger than life, upfront sounds. Instant gratification, and that was enough for me to justify buying it.

Then again, try to replicate Zebra patches in Hive, and you'll get nowhere fast.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:32 pm

Autobot wrote:I tested Hive for a couple of hours and find it quite inspiring but I cant get rid of the feeling that all sound are also possible with some Zebra patches and tweaks. Am I the only one? What are thinking all those user?

Workflow!
I'm not a sound designer but Hive really calls you to play around by being an "all on your face" layout.
Wonderful presets ready for manipulation in one page!

core · Post by **core** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:38 am

Hive is easy to program and it has its own character. I would say it's necessary but it's a great addition to Zebra for sure.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:29 am

I think everyone who owned Zebra prior to Hive asked themselves at least a similar question... I thought that Zebra would cover all of HIVE's possibilities more or less and even now I think that you don't "need" anything else pretty much if you have Zebra..

after HIVE was released, after few months when the post-release "hype" was gone, I find HIVE progressively more interesting... it's simple yet elegant, You could use it for sketching instrumentation and then layer or replace with different synths.

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:45 pm

It really depends on your outlook. For me, Hive essentially everything I could ask for in a synth. It's very easy and sounds modern, fat and punchy. It has a totally different character than Zebra, regardless of the feature-set.

For me, I prefer it over Zebra since I got tired of modular synths and didn't make much progress. You have to ask yourself what you're looking for and make a decision from there ^^.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:07 pm

You cant make same sounds in zebra as in hive. Simply because of different character. Also stacking and detuning alghorhytms are very different.

Zebra doesnt sound so full and clear as Hive and also doesnt cut thro the mix.

I have both and use them both to different purposes. Zebra more as a complimentary synth for sounds in the background, atmospheric sounds, pads and Hive for main sounds like lead synths.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:45 pm

^^^ Exactly, the 16 stacked supersaw etc. thing is pretty much non-existant in Zebra, you can replicate it a bit, but at a higher CPU cost and less "full" sound. Zebra has massive modulation and synthesis possibilities though, and Hive is a stacked digital synth with that as it's main feature.

IMO anyway U-He have done a good job of not creating the same synth over and over in general.

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