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anp27 · Post by **anp27** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:53 am

Suloo wrote:u-he stuff if i'm not mistaken for example.

Nope, just tried it with Zebra. Didn't work.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:57 am

anp27 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:Already working for VST's that support it...
Like which ones?

I think what I actually wanted to say was 'Per Note Expression for third party VSTs'.

u-he Hive, Bazille and Diva all work (Zebra no, and I haven't actually tried ACE)... Aalto, Kaivo and fxPansion Strobe do too... there are a few others I don't remember at the moment.

anp27 · Post by **anp27** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:55 am

pdxindy wrote:u-he Hive, Bazille and Diva all work (Zebra no, and I haven't actually tried ACE)

Ugggggghhhhhh ok thanks for the info

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:45 am

never tried, so should I have to use pressure modifier for example?

PHY6 · Post by **PHY6** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:29 am

More catpics ?

u-u-u · Post by **u-u-u** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:30 am

pdxindy wrote:
anp27 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:Already working for VST's that support it...
Like which ones?

I think what I actually wanted to say was 'Per Note Expression for third party VSTs'.
u-he Hive, Bazille and Diva all work (Zebra no, and I haven't actually tried ACE)... Aalto, Kaivo and fxPansion Strobe do too... there are a few others I don't remember at the moment.

But at least for Bazille the per note pitch expression doesn't work.

DJ-Superherpes · Post by **DJ-Superherpes** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:02 pm

Back to topic:

I dont miss big things, except one: Intern midi-routing like in the versions before 1.3 with the hw-ins and the iac-driver (now the datas come to target, but there is no monitor-signal). And maybe the possiblity to group sends (export the groups and dragdrop into another song, with all names / fx / settings of the fx...).

But except this i like the way the update now: more fixing and optimizing than a lot of new non-ready-fast-shot-features. Well, the gui/the workflow is quiet ok (much better than the competition and the main-reason for me to use BWS) but far away from really fast and smart.

But i really DONT like early announcing and than waiting and waiting and waiting.

shonoob · Post by **shonoob** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:57 pm

anp27 wrote:
Suloo wrote:same here, groups were all i really missed from cubase. Everything else can be acomplished with 3rd party plugins or other workarounds.
Bitwig is not quite there for me yet, and I still need to have to Logic around. It would amazing if we got these features this year:

1. Per Note Expression for third party VSTs
2. Movie import
3. Flexible MIDI Channel routing/switching

EDIT: Changed 'Note Expression' to 'Per Note Expression'

+1

I really want them to update/upgrade some more features in their piano roll too.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:10 pm

u-u-u wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
anp27 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:Already working for VST's that support it...
Like which ones?

I think what I actually wanted to say was 'Per Note Expression for third party VSTs'.
u-he Hive, Bazille and Diva all work (Zebra no, and I haven't actually tried ACE)... Aalto, Kaivo and fxPansion Strobe do too... there are a few others I don't remember at the moment.
But at least for Bazille the per note pitch expression doesn't work.

When you put Bazille into a track, right click on the Bitwig device and select the option "Force MPE Mode"

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:13 pm

basically we know whats coming with 2.0, so why not showing the stuff that works already? I wouldn't mind having a look, even if it takes time to finish it.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:15 pm

Or?
Total silence for 6 months and we wont see anything? I bet it will explode here..

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:17 pm

codec17 wrote:Or?
Total silence for 6 months and we wont see anything? I bet it will explode here..

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:37 pm

xbitz wrote:never tried, so should I have to use pressure modifier for example?

This is just polyphonic aftertouch, which pressure controls in VSTs. So actually a lot of VSTs support that. Like all the u-he synths, Omnisphere, impOscar 2, Poly-Ana, CS-80V and a bunch more I'm sure.

This is not the same as MPE support, which if I'm not mistaken also includes pitch bend per note and I think another modifier that would relate to timbre.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:38 pm

pdxindy wrote:
u-u-u wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
anp27 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:Already working for VST's that support it...
Like which ones?

I think what I actually wanted to say was 'Per Note Expression for third party VSTs'.
u-he Hive, Bazille and Diva all work (Zebra no, and I haven't actually tried ACE)... Aalto, Kaivo and fxPansion Strobe do too... there are a few others I don't remember at the moment.
But at least for Bazille the per note pitch expression doesn't work.
When you put Bazille into a track, right click on the Bitwig device and select the option "Force MPE Mode"

Any word on if/when Zebra will work with MPE mode?

anp27 · Post by **anp27** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:53 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Any word on if/when Zebra will work with MPE mode?

Just tested this with Zebra, MPE mode did not work.

Bitwig

KVR Audio

Will bitwig show us an update at namm and not release it for 6 months?