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wasi · Post by **wasi** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:29 am

I haven't been too impressed with WOS + amp plugins. IMO it sounds great with hardware preamps but I feel it tends to 'grate' a bit on digital preamps and the CPU hit quickly becomes an issue as well if you're running a good preamp plugin. I'll have to try it with TH3 though. Best I found with TH2 was TH2 into Recabinet. Recabinet sounds much fuller to my ears than WOS in basic setups IMO. WOS seems to want you to pile it on. Hence the name maybe. Using only one cab sounds tiny.

producer7 · Post by **producer7** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:12 pm

wasi wrote:I haven't been too impressed with WOS + amp plugins. IMO it sounds great with hardware preamps but I feel it tends to 'grate' a bit on digital preamps and the CPU hit quickly becomes an issue as well if you're running a good preamp plugin. I'll have to try it with TH3 though. Best I found with TH2 was TH2 into Recabinet. Recabinet sounds much fuller to my ears than WOS in basic setups IMO. WOS seems to want you to pile it on. Hence the name maybe. Using only one cab sounds tiny.

ReCab is really good man. I just have 3. I like 4 but i refuse to run plugins that do that to your CPU. Its unnecessary and i just wont buy it. Even for the $19 or $29 or whatever it was a few days back.

Another thing i like about recabinet is the way it shows the information on 3rd party IR's BEFORE you actually make your selection. In TH3 and most others, its a little hard to tell what your dragging in (Unless you know the IRs well) until you get it inside the program.

I like the Ownhammer stuff myself that were taken using the 6L6 power amp.

I searched the entire sit but i had no luck finding it bro, would you mind throwing up a link?

Edit: i guess i didnt actually use the search bar

monkeymanx · Post by **monkeymanx** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:24 am

I think all the IRs come that way. He shoots the IRs using 3 different power amps I believe. One is solid state, one is a power amp with EL34s and another with 6L6s. It looks like that is for the older libraries though which is only the "studio mix" one. The ones I've been using are from the high gain essentials pack but doesn't look like he sells it anymore. All the new libraries just say neutral tube amp. He probably figured whatever that one was, was the best sounding of the bunch to use.

monkeymanx · Post by **monkeymanx** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:56 am

Put together a video of me playing a tune using TH3 on guitars and bass. It falls under the metal category minus the guitar shredding on the leads. I'm really enjoying TH3 more and more. Plus it is really light on CPU even using impulses in high quality mode. Some things could be better though, like management for your third party IR files you import. A couple other odds and ends. But, it sounds good to me and is easy on the CPU.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:56 am

monkeymanx wrote:

Put together a video of me playing a tune using TH3 on guitars and bass. It falls under the metal category minus the guitar shredding on the leads. I'm really enjoying TH3 more and more. Plus it is really light on CPU even using impulses in high quality mode. Some things could be better though, like management for your third party IR files you import. A couple other odds and ends. But, it sounds good to me and is easy on the CPU.

I like it. Congrats on being a one man show that makes it happen!

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:42 am

There is to be a TH3 Cakewalk edition as link says:
https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR ... ates#start

so included with all editions of Sonar.

AC222 · Post by **AC222** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:12 am

monkeymanx wrote:

Put together a video of me playing a tune using TH3 on guitars and bass. It falls under the metal category minus the guitar shredding on the leads. I'm really enjoying TH3 more and more. Plus it is really light on CPU even using impulses in high quality mode. Some things could be better though, like management for your third party IR files you import. A couple other odds and ends. But, it sounds good to me and is easy on the CPU.

Hey man, thanks for sharing. Sounds great! It's really hard to pull off the one man band convincingly but you did a great job.

What models are you using?

I bought TH3 as well and love it. I love the Soldano SLO model and Randall T2 in particular.

Not to go too far off topic but I Imagine you started off as a drummer first? It's easier to go from drumming than being a guitarist who picks up drums if you know what i mean lol.

monkeymanx · Post by **monkeymanx** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:39 am

AC222 wrote:
Hey man, thanks for sharing. Sounds great! It's really hard to pull off the one man band convincingly but you did a great job.

What models are you using?

I bought TH3 as well and love it. I love the Soldano SLO model and Randall T2 in particular.

Not to go too far off topic but I Imagine you started off as a drummer first? It's easier to go from drumming than being a guitarist who picks up drums if you know what i mean lol.

I used the Modern CH3 (Rectifier) and the Heavy51 (5150) for the heavy rhythms. The lead guitars are the M.22.10 which is something like a JCM800, I think it is a model of one of the later JCM800 editions. Bass is the SVT Classic model. Cleans are just the clean Rectifier.

I kind of picked up everything around the same time as a early teen. Started with singing and playing guitar. Another buddy bought a drum kit, I sat down at it and could play without knowing what I was doing but I could keep timing and play just fine. Shortly after that I picked up a drum kit of my own and started playing regularly. Over the years I've played different roles in bands, really depending what was needed. Played guitar in a couple, drummed for a couple, and sang for a couple. Now that we have grown up I end up singing more so than anything else. If needed I can drum and sing but not play guitar and sing. At least not play anything intricate on guitar and sing. Over the past ten years I really developed my voice though as that what has been needed.

I'm one of those do it all kind of people. Heck I can even beat box pretty damn good and do voices. The one thing I can't seem to do is hold a solid band together. That is too much work for me hahahaha!!!

But to clarify I most certainly don't have the guitarist brain, more of a drummer brain. I think that helps me more with song writing. I think about everything put together as a whole and not just guitar parts which I think is what guitar players do. The rhythm section always comes first in my book. You can have a solid cake with just icing ya know? The vocals and lead guitar parts should just be icing on that cake to make it taste even better. The arrangement should be interesting enough that the rest just accelerates it...

AC222 · Post by **AC222** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:05 pm

Awesome stuff....Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I hear you about working with others. Sometimes if you want things done the right way you just have to do it yourself lol. Definitely seeing soemone doing the one man band thing and doing it well is inspiring

xphen0m · Post by **xphen0m** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:20 pm

I also bit down on my tongue and bought TH3. Really hard.

Overall, I've warmed up to TH3 during the demo period. They still need to work on some things. I like the BurnSphere amp a lot, since I work on metal most of the time. The cab sim, I feel, is still great.

Overall, I'm content with it. It's just not that much different from TH2.

edit: I meant to say that, for my purposes, I like the Brunetti Vanilla more than I like the Brunetti Burning Box.

wasi · Post by **wasi** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:44 pm

I still hate the GUI and the whole user experience it brings. So much.

Drag amp in, drag screen around, right click and delete the previous amp, drag screen back to the new amp, drag screen over looking for the pedal you had before it. Accidentally drag the device when you miss the fancy-dancy little dials they made. Squint trying to read the oh-so-realistic stupid little rendition of some device's dials that you have displayed at 75% so you can at least have the amp and cab visible at the same time. Click back to 100% zoom. Realize that, yep, that just barely let's you see the amp. Drag the window size around hoping to find some magical aspect ratio that doesn't look like a censorship bar across your screen, causing you to shuffle and fuss with any other VSTs you have open. It's really the pinnacle of suck.

But yeah it sounds sweet. Fix that damn UI already.

xphen0m · Post by **xphen0m** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:01 am

Just threw this together today.

Been wanting to do a hardcore styled track for a long long time now.

I might turn this into a full length song later, adding more to it and improving the overall mix.

The guitar is OTS' Evolution Banshee into TH3's TS808 -> BurnSphere ->TH3 England cab -> some equalizing.

I actually didn't use TH3 for the bass.

https://soundcloud.com/verncmusic/overloud-th3-test

bill45 · Post by **bill45** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:16 am

XphenOm, That was awesome! The sustained power chord sounded great.
You do that with some guitar vsti's and am amp sims. and that chord would sound like an egg in a frying pan.
What did you use for bass and drums. I just got banshee,stratosphere,and cherry bass. ample sound AME2
Sounds good too. I may have to get TH3.

xphen0m · Post by **xphen0m** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:36 am

bill45 thank you!

It takes some tinkering with Banshee to get chords to sound good.

Bass is a custom Trilian patch ran through a Darkglass B7K, routed back to the DAW into Kuassa's Ceberus bass amp.

The drums are BFD3. I bought that in the Market Place last month and I am absolutely LOVING it. I like it more than I like Superior Drummer. I used the shells from Oblivion library and the cymbals from the Zildjian library. I've been taking advantage of the huge sale on the BFD expansions since New Year's Day. lol

I bought AME back when it came out...and haven't used it yet. lol I might do a version of this track using AME in place of Banshee.

So TH3 definitely sounds great. The UI just kind of kills off it's good vibes.

bill45 · Post by **bill45** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:56 pm

That would be cool. Make sure to go into ame2 settings and turn on cycle plus for
more round robins.I like AME 2 a little better for non muted notes in my preliminary tests.
Going back and forth between TH3 and amplitube 4. Saw a youtube video featuring AME2 with amplitube 4
sounded great.

Overloud TH3 (Released)