Tracktion Software

orltran · Post by **orltran** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:38 pm

Is it possible to have tracktion remove the VSTi from frozen tracks, so ram intensive vstis would free ram?
As of now I have to render the track if I want to remove a vsti, but then I can't go back.
If it's not, than can we have this, please?

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:00 pm

I'm not sure if this will work for you, but you can "render to track" and then mute everything in the source track. It won't free up memory, and it won't free up as much CPU as a freeze, but it lets you go back and fiddle later if you change your mind.

Maybe something called "chill" could be made.. render the source track to a second one, make some kind of record of the filter configuration of the source track, then "ghost" the source track, unloading all the VST/i (thus freeing CPU *and* RAM). "unchilling" would reload the original source tracks VST/i in the pre-"chill" configuration.

I'd not want to code that, but it's just an idea.

Jed · Post by **Jed** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:11 pm

FXFreeze has this capability - it's their 'ultrafreeze' operation. The website is http://www.fxfreeze.com/

HTH

Jed

orltran · Post by **orltran** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:44 am

Yes, but it costs almost as much as tracktion itself

Thanx anyway.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:01 pm

Jed wrote:FXFreeze has this capability - it's their 'ultrafreeze' operation. The website is http://www.fxfreeze.com/

HTH

Jed

How well does this work, and have you tried it in Sonar by any chance? I really need to do something like this, but I'm wary of introducing another layer of crap into my composing process.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:15 pm

I've had FXfreeze since it came out. I never found that it worked particularly well - i.e. glitches and bugs, sometimes incorrent syncing. It may be more stable now though. Based on my experience I wouldn't recommend it.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:28 pm

chagzuki wrote:I've had FXfreeze since it came out. I never found that it worked particularly well - i.e. glitches and bugs, sometimes incorrent syncing. It may be more stable now though. Based on my experience I wouldn't recommend it.

Rock on. Thanks for the heads up. I looked over their descriptions and I started to glaze over at all the steps involved. Basically, I just need one 8.4 GHz machine and a big array of firewire drives!

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:08 pm

Well that's me confused again.

I thought frozen tracks DID get rid of the VSTi. I thought that was the whole POINT of freezing!!! What the heck am I missing here? Does it only remove VST on audio tracks, and not VSTi on MIDI tracks?

Weird.

Greg

orltran · Post by **orltran** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:07 am

I thought so too, but I'v checked the ram load, and it didn't change after freezing. Also the vsti didn't reload the preset after unfreezing, so no, it apparently doesn't remove it. I guess it doesn't remove the VSTFx neither, they most likely stay in memory, they just don't use processing power, which is very useful, so freezing is a good thing as it is, but it could be better if it would free ram.

Aleatoric · Post by **Aleatoric** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:53 am

I remember awhile back this was brought up and it was suggested the there be an "ultra freeze" (free processor and ram) option implemented. I think Jules put it on the list for T2. I hope so......especially for all use laptop Tracktioneers.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:35 pm

I have to say, not removing the VST from RAM comes as a huge surprise to me. I was under the impression that all frozen tracks just become one .wav file and the rest of the plugins, etc., WERE completely removed.

Well, that pretty much clinches it that render and replace is a better option.

Greg

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