Anything like Zynaptiq Morph?

[Igor Amos]

I want to upload an audio file as an example. How do I do that? When I try and upload it as an attachment, its says "The extension wav is not allowed."

[vectorwarrior]

I DEFINITELY prefer Morphing to vocoding (but then I work in sound effects so my desires are a little different). I would be curious to know how the morphing technology works though, so i can make better decisions as to what content will work together.

Vocoding is essentially a massively-multi-band envelope follower, where you follow the envelope of another sound. Therefore if there are no sounds in a frequency band in both signals you will not hear anything. This means the two signals need to contain some similar frequencies. I'm curious to know how morphing works compared to this, is it just a spectral version of this? Or is some frequency transformation taking place, whereby sounds from one frequency range are remapped to frequencies present in the other signal (for instance, using the Melda MTransform effect, you could 'morph' the frequencies in a sound to a different place.

If it is literally transforming or remapping frequencies, then the effect is VERY different to vocoding. If it isn't, then essentially it's just a spectral version of a vocoder, which is obviously going to have a different sound to standard vocoding, but requires more frequency correlated material. Vojtech, can you give us a little information, even in a broad sense, as to what it does?

Thanks!

[tuneone]

Z-Morph, and yesterday i discovered the new Melodyne 4 and MMorph, those are great new tools.

MMorph is amazing !! I played with it for an hour, iam just so impress with the sonic possibility and his quality.
Routing the main signal to the sidechaine is excellent, it allows us to keep both signal in stereo.

I really don't regret my investement in MTotalBundle few years ago, thanx !!!!

[VariKusBrainZ]

Is it just me?

Im not seeing the side chain in Bitwig

[Igor Amos]

I think it's more like choosing the right audio materials, not everything makes sense with everything and it also depends on what you are looking for. It's a creative thing definitely. I personally prefer to use main input for something sustained (pads, strings, stuff like that) and sidechain to be more rhythmical (drums, vocals etc.). Definitely one of them should sort of "constant" - if you have 2 instruments playing 2 different melodies, you cannot expect much, at least if you are looking for something harmonic. If one of the instruments is too "small" (not many frequencies), it helps to use some of the whitening, flattening or things like that.

I had great success taking audio of a baby crying and converting to midi and using the midi to play a saxophone. Then taking these 2 audio files which have the same volume changes and morphing between the 2. In other words morphing two very different sounds (MMorph) with the same exact transients. Because of the choice of sounds, its a little creepy sounding, but also very interesting. I don't know how to upload this audio file example, or I would. KVR doesn't allow uploading of audio files I think.

[Igor Amos]

Is it just me?

Im not seeing the side chain in Bitwig

I was able to get this to work by assigning the sidechain like this:

Screen Shot 2016-01-15 at 11.29.24 AM.png

you have to hit the little down arrow on the right hand side to choose sidechain when you open the device macro button.

[VariKusBrainZ]

Is it just me?

Im not seeing the side chain in Bitwig

I was able to get this to work by assigning the sidechain like this:

Screen Shot 2016-01-15 at 11.29.24 AM.png

you have to hit the little down arrow on the right hand side to choose sidechain when you open the device macro button.

Thanks, hadnt sidechained anything yet in Bitwig

[Igor Amos]

Is it just me?

Im not seeing the side chain in Bitwig

I was able to get this to work by assigning the sidechain like this:

Screen Shot 2016-01-15 at 11.29.24 AM.png

you have to hit the little down arrow on the right hand side to choose sidechain when you open the device macro button.

Thanks, hadnt sidechained anything yet in Bitwig

yeh, its kinda hidden

[astramistil]

Igor Amos: can we hear that baby-morph? Thx!

[Igor Amos]

Igor Amos: can we hear that baby-morph? Thx!

would love to, just can't figure out how to upload this audio file!

KVR doesn't seem to allow it. Any ideas?

[astramistil]

soundcloud is fast and free

[VariKusBrainZ]

soundcloud is fast and free

Theres a similar old demo for Kyma that morphs a baby into a cat (and a Harley into a lions roar)

[Igor Amos]

soundcloud is fast and free

wow, didn't think of that:

https://soundcloud.com/ret-sam-llik/babysax-bip/s-VTmTG

[vectorwarrior]

Interesting! How did you do the convert to midi notes from the baby crying? I'd like to try that with some stuff!

[Igor Amos]

Interesting! How did you do the convert to midi notes from the baby crying? I'd like to try that with some stuff!

I used Flex Pitch in Logic Pro X. Select region, open editor and turn on Flex and choose Flex Pitch algorithm. Then save a track using "Create MIDI Track from Flex Pitch Data":

Screen Shot 2016-01-15 at 2.01.04 PM.png

Kinda cool how accurate the pitch extraction is for very fast pitch changes etc...