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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:32 am

glokraw wrote:
Urs wrote: It's going to be something akin "can you spot the difference between a an expensive filter and a cheap one?" and "what's the defining threshold?". In other words, we're going to explore the boundaries of perception with a true double blind AB test.
How will you know who has two good ears? There are many musicians whose hearing
has been thrashed, but still think their audio opinions are polished platinum.
Hearing range could be even more a concern when the testing is done on filtering.

Maybe do a small separate test using youthful orchestral music students
for comparison, to verify that results from the damaged-goods rock generation
are meaningful, or just marginal? A double-blind test among the double-deaf?
Ouch
Cheers

Hehe, yeah, we've been thinking about that. Let's take the worst case, if out of 100 people 75 are deaf we should still see a significant trend towards the accurate implementations from the remaining 25. If more than 75% of people are deaf, there's not much of a need bother with quality anyway, hence - spoken cynically - the outcome will be the same.

What's more critical is public discussion. If someone posts "hey, Filter 3 is the best, surely", many people might have their conclusion affected. Hence we need to do this in a way that the actual algorithms are different for each user - which could again be done by a random seed. We'll see...

#rob · Post by **#rob** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:17 am

david.beholder wrote:I have short living coupon and have simple nothing to buy with it.

If you own all our full plugin products already, then send an eMail to support at u-he dot com and we'll figure something out.

transverb · Post by **transverb** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:14 pm

Late to the party as usual... but just wanted to say cheers for the voucher!

Going to be hard to pass up ACE...

DavidEkl · Post by **DavidEkl** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:33 pm

Urs wrote:
DavidEkl wrote:Did we get a clear answer on whether or not the couponcode is usable with Zebra HZ update? Or does that fall under "soundsets"?

Kind regards
David
The Dark Zebra falls under soundsets. But if you have every u-he plug-in, you can contact support and swap your coupon for one that works on TDZ

You're most kind, however i'm "merely" a 5-plugin licenseholding customer.

Ah well

The Traveler · Post by **The Traveler** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:36 pm

Not to complain, but I'd sure like to see the coupon date extended an extra month or two. With Christmas just past, I'm not too flush at the moment and I have to still do taxes.

paulevs · Post by **paulevs** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:55 pm

pinso · Post by **pinso** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:10 pm

Do you get an autom. confirmation message when clicking on submit?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:43 pm

pinso wrote:Do you get an autom. confirmation message when clicking on submit?

No, I don't think so. But our support team has a script that turns those email addresses into emails containing a coupon code. I think they do that about once every day from Monday to Friday.

fese · Post by **fese** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:30 pm

Urs wrote:As for not having anything new until January 31st, that may not quite be true. We're going to announce another "research ware" soon, mostly to secure the trademark. Because unlike Protoverb, we have a very concrete plan to turn it into a product later on. It's basically part of a filter design toolkit I'm developing for Z3 that looks like it's got great potential for spin offs in Diva, ACE and Filterscape, as well as being its own thing. We're talking Diva divine quality at half the CPU - if the feedback from the research ware is significant enough to make us confident about it. However, this won't be out until GOK when.

Too bad - i really don't see anything I really need from u-he that I don't already have, so I guess my voucher will expire without being used. A dedicated filter plugin with Diva-like quality though - I'd be in without thinking. Can I preorder with the voucher?

groundhum · Post by **groundhum** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:48 pm

No survey for me? Is my hearing really that bad?

jsp1979 · Post by **jsp1979** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:16 pm

groundhum wrote:No survey for me? Is my hearing really that bad?

Go right here and click on the link to take it.

http://rekkerd.org/u-he-customer-survey ... ff-coupon/

DavidEkl · Post by **DavidEkl** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:29 am

Urs wrote: We got to the point where we must release something new at least once every year, and it must sell.

This is sad, but it's obviously the way things are moving. The more products you release the bigger support and maintenance aspects become, thus you must create and sell more to cover these expenses which in turn again increases the support and maintenance expenses.
Oh well.
Keep up the good work

Erkenfresh · Post by **Erkenfresh** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:10 am

I'm always happy to provide feedback. I know it helps prioritize your work. I'm almost exclusively U-he with my synths now and I have no reason to look elsewhere. Thanks!

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:44 am

Urs wrote: We got to the point where we must release something new at least once every year, and it must sell.

How about developing a wide range of custom midi mappings of your instruments
for various popular midi controllers? A Zebra, Hive, or Diva, fully mapped
to a korg taktile or a nektar would be serious candy

Putting a price
on the time it takes someone to do (or learn to do) a quality mapping, the time spent enjoying it, and the productivity gains? Include 3 maps in each product,
one for melody, one for body, and one for rythm, priced around $70, it would be

impulse

if not

no-brainer

territory.

Not to mention there is no dearth of affordable under-utilized android
devices out there amongst the chilluns, that could host an array or two
of key paramaeters. And kids owning them are getting old enough
to be assimilated for life.

I would think a U-he synth mapped on an alesis/roland style midi drum-kit
would require an security roadie to keep the setup from being nicked.
Even a Beatstep Pro would seem a better purchase if custom
maps were out there in the wild.
Cheers

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:52 am

Regarding MIDI mappings... we hope to exploit the automapping functionality we created for Diva's NKS port in our other synths as well (might be very difficult for Zebra) and possibly for other controller protocols as well - if such exists.

As for "a U-he synth mapped on an alesis/roland style midi drum-kit" take notice of this event: https://www.superbooth.com/en/landing.html - we hope to showcase a technology preview that might lead to something like this.

As for more support, higher costs - it took a while but we're also getting to a point where I can concentrate on the creative side. It's kind of unbearable that we've got a good reputation for analogue sounding filters (Diva), yet we don't exploit that technology in other products, not even in our dedicated filter plug-ins (Runciter, Filterscape). This should automatically leverage our reputation into a broader audience.

The higher costs are due to more people who need to keep things off my back. Support plays a big role, but an even bigger role play the graphics people and the other developers. For a long time, it was me who had to support other developers in what they did because they didn't know the concepts of the framework I wrote. So they ended up adding features while I ended up maintaining the codebase and fixing bugs (Which is why Hive was dubbed my "weekend project" - I wrote most of the osc/filter code during leisure time). But that's of course not why I hired them. So we're now making space for myself and we distribute the annoying stuff evenly among us. I'll be thrice as productive, as one can see form Protoverb and the upcoming research synth

Anyway, we have a framework and a codebase that allows us to deploy ideas quickly (less than 2 weeks for Protoverb). We should and we will make use of it!

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