which CPU to get now for making DIVA and others shine?

[kyhon]

http://www.prismsound.com/music_recordi ... hp?tt=0023
Maybe this will help you ?̲̅!̲̅

[hollo]

Thanks for the link Kyhon!

Still haunting the problem. Some of my friends suspecting the sound card (E-MU 1616M with
PCI to PCIE converter) so i will borrow some new USB soundcard to check if it's any better...

[kyhon]

ᗁᓋᒷᒷᓌ - I'm happy to help you ٩(●̮̮̃•)۶

I know that PCI can cause a lot of trouble. You have a new pc , so maybe the motherboard do some problems with E-MU pci , their combination may create problems.

Try to check drivers and firmwares.
It's a good idea to connect some usb audio interface.

If you need some tips for a good audio interface just tell me (pm), i checked most of them 〠

[EvilDragon]

I was not completely certain that soundcard would be the issue, but it might be. It's old indeed. Get something newer, better. Say a Focusrite or a Presonus USB interface. Should do you good (especially Presonus has pretty good low latency drivers). I have a TC Electronic Impact Twin (FireWire) and it works great, but FireWire is becoming less and less prominent on motherboards, so I need to have an add-on card to have FW added. I'll likely switch to a good USB interface later down the line, too. I wish USB3 were more used by audio interface vendors.

[hollo]

Problem SOLVED!!!
VST Audio System/Activate Steinberg Audio Power Scheme
I can't believe how could i miss this.

Vst performance went down from 100% to normal, CPU up from 3.6 to 12% average usage.
With my own pad sounds in Serum i can play finally legato chords over 10 voices!!!

Thanks for all the helps

Now i will check Zebra HZ
HZ Divine mode is the greatest stress for the CPU.
(Diva is shining here with multicore on.)
I set up a patch (2 osc, 2 HP, 2 LP all of them with Resonaces)

With hiperthreading on CPU 8 is 100% on repeated chords.
With hiperthreading off: sharing the workload to more of the cores but still 1 or2 having the main
peaks. Which one is better?

[hollo]

double post

[bmrzycki]

With hyper-threading on CPU 8 is 100% on repeated chords.
With hyper-threading off: sharing the workload to more of the cores but still 1 or 2 having the main
peaks. Which one is better?

In general it's best to leave HT on. When enabled HT tells the OS you have 2x the number of cores than you really do. This is to help fill stalls/bubbles in the instruction pipeline for each core. As long as you're running a modern OS (Windows 7+, Linux 3.x+, and I think it was OS X 10.5+) it will comprehend hyper-threading vs real cores.

I leave it on with my older i7-3770 and in my personal testing I found it helped with running multiple plug-ins at the same time like FX chains or synth harmonies.

[hollo]

Thanks Brian! I guessed so...

Because of the whole thread: Diva is really shine with this setup finally

[bmrzycki]

Diva is really shine with this setup finally

Awesome! Diva still runs OK on my older chip, I think I'll wait for the follow-on to Skylake before upgrading next year.

[EvilDragon]

Phew! Great, I'm glad for you, Joseph!

[Caine123]

ok mates, i saved money to get some new CPU and stuff. i think my old mainboard cannot handle the new cpu's so i need a new one.

my current setup
OS: Win 7 Home 64 Bit
CPU: Intel i5-2320 3.00 GHz
RAM: 8,00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
MAINBOARD: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8Z68-V LX (LGA1155)
GRAPHIC: 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (XFX Pine Group)
SSD: 128GB M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device
HDD: 3x Seagate ST3000DM001-1ER166 ATA Device (SATA)
OPTICAL DRIVE: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS90 ATA Device
AUDIO: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB

i already bought a Samsung PRO SSD 512 for C:, the rest 3 Seagates will be kept. what would you recommend for a great performance so i dont get (anymore) stuttering in my projects while mixing & mastering ;D
Power: Be Quiet 500W

[chilly7]

Intel E5-2699 v3 .

There is a debat speed vs cores. And boths are right.
But i actuly on 3rd side, because i think in addition to them there is something more which contributes to performance then amount of cores and speed of cores.

Plugins which are not made for multy thread can utilize only 1 core per one instance of plugin. So if plugin need more power then 1 core can provide plugin does not work propertly no metter have many cores you have.
I have older computer and it has Ivy Bridge E5 3.7 4core and even with it i come to problems with some plugins.


And when i take a look at CPU metter in OS it tells me that even 1 core are not at full load so i make conclusion that it might be possibility that there is more things affect performance then CPU Khz speed.

Plugins which can utilize multiple cores will benefit more cores you have.
And thouse pligins which do not take when plugin will be rendered to audio they will.( at list in Studio One v3 Pro.)

So in can conclusion i sey.
1)If you take the bigest Khz you are still not protected from over loading CPU with some plugins which do not support multy thread. But bigger Khz means less cores.
2)If you take biggest count of cores you have more weaker cores but more overall power.

I think i would go more cores because for me it means fester rendering time because i use feature in Studio One to conver track to audio with ability to reverse it to the original state pretty oftenly.

[chk071]

i think my old mainboard cannot handle the new cpu's so i need a new one.

That's why, tbh, i never understood why people build a system to "upgrade it one day". It'll all be obsolete, the CPU socket, RAM bus, even the graphics card slot could be obsolete one day if they develop a better bus than PCIe. Not to speak about USB3, and its potential predecessors... i'd always buy for the moment, and then buy a new system in 5, 6, 7 years. Anything else simply won't make sense to me.

[exmatproton]

i think my old mainboard cannot handle the new cpu's so i need a new one.

That's why, tbh, i never understood why people build a system to "upgrade it one day". It'll all be obsolete, the CPU socket, RAM bus, even the graphics card slot could be obsolete one day if they develop a better bus than PCIe. Not to speak about USB3, and its potential predecessors... i'd always buy for the moment, and then buy a new system in 5, 6, 7 years. Anything else simply won't make sense to me.

Upgrading is a great and powerful way to boost ones set-up. The main system can stay the same for 5 to 6 years indeed, but the great thing about having a PC, is the easy upgradeability. Ofcourse, some things will get obsolete with time passing by. But that, for me, is really not an issue.