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Urs wrote:"Now" would be overstating it... but yeah, it's coming along :)

Diva might get the alternative implementation which was famously built into the Synthex. Nothing set in stone tho.
Are they based on the same vcf chip Pro1/Pro5 and Synthex?
Urs wrote: We're all very excited about it, and our booth is next to the Absinthe bar.
NI have BAR for single plugin :o :hihi:
Murderous duck!

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Suloo wrote:wich is related to Schneidersladen, a specialised music store for Analog Synths and all that stuff in Berlin.
Know about both. Bought Dominon 1 (loooovely synth) from Schneidersladen -- really nice and communicative company/people.

Thanks everyone for explainations.
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote:"Now" would be overstating it... but yeah, it's coming along :)

Diva might get the alternative implementation which was famously built into the Synthex. Nothing set in stone tho.
Are they based on the same vcf chip Pro1/Pro5 and Synthex?
Yep, it's the CEM 3320.

The earlier Prophet 5s had SSM 2040s... we have one of those too, but in a Eurorack module.

I'm not 100% sure if it's really the chips that make the sound, apart from maybe some specific tolerances. I think the circuitry around them is at least as important. Just compare an Opera 6 to a Polysix. Same chip, but day and night (Korg cheated with the supply voltage though, maybe deliberately)

However, tiny changes in resistors or voltages can make quite a difference. The digital model we've worked out lets us set nearly individual tolerances for transistors or sets thereof, and the sonic difference is considerable within the common tolerance levels.
Urs wrote: We're all very excited about it, and our booth is next to the Absinthe bar.
NI have BAR for single plugin :o :hihi:
*burp*

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Echoes in the Attic wrote:Whatver happens to Zebra 3 I just hope it doesn't lose it's versatile arp. It's one of the few software arpeggiators that actually has all the features a sequenced arp should have:
-Programmable steps (Adjustable length is nice too)
-Tie/glide
-Swing

It's crazy how few synths actually provide these basics. They often have 2 out of 3 (like programmable steps and swing but not tie/glide, or programmable with tie/glide but no swing, or sometimes tie is just a note lengthener not a glide, or sometimes synths just have a programmable sequencer with swing and glide, but it doesn't arpeggiate! ie.Bazille).

Please don't "improve" the arp by removing these features!

Also, I hope Zebra does stay in a reasonable cpu zone. For me it's the u-he sound without costing all your cpu, which I find important for the polyphonic stuff.
The Zebra Arp is also Polyphonic... :-)
Plus you can control each step (first, last, etc)and it integrates nicely with the Mod Mappers!

For Z3 - a hold function, more parameters modulatable, and arp presets

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the arp is good, but we need to have some more mappable options like midi-wise....like be able to map to change the # of notes, and map to change the arp rate.... and be able to load and save arp configs, and then be able to switch between these on the fly...and also be able to map those actions....to knobs in ableton :)
Sincerely,
Zethus, twin son of Zeus

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zethus909 wrote:the arp is good, but we need to have some more mappable options like midi-wise....like be able to map to change the # of notes, and map to change the arp rate.... and be able to load and save arp configs, and then be able to switch between these on the fly...and also be able to map those actions....to knobs in ableton :)
+1

I also hope that the way MSEGs (single/poly/mono) and the arp work together stays the same. I love how single-mode MSEGs play through independently of the arp.

Basically I hope the arp retains all its goodness while also being improved. I can't imagine u-he going the other way, so dunno why I even bother posting this.

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When there is one thing i need within Zebra 3 it would be multi-threading.... but like it was written it seems not possible due to the architecture?!
I´m a bit scared if i can use Zebra 3 then :scared:

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When I buy Zebra2 yet, the price for the Zebra3 update will be 30$?

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tedlogan wrote:
zethus909 wrote:the arp is good, but we need to have some more mappable options like midi-wise....like be able to map to change the # of notes, and map to change the arp rate.... and be able to load and save arp configs, and then be able to switch between these on the fly...and also be able to map those actions....to knobs in ableton :)
+1

I also hope that the way MSEGs (single/poly/mono) and the arp work together stays the same. I love how single-mode MSEGs play through independently of the arp.

Basically I hope the arp retains all its goodness while also being improved. I can't imagine u-he going the other way, so dunno why I even bother posting this.
I still dont really know how to implement the MSEGs yet......i just started using modmapper and understanding it.....how does MSEG work with the arp.....is there secret things? I still dont understand the differences between the MSEGs and i honestly dont even use it...i guess i havent taken the time to learn what is actually possible...i know theres 4 of the them...but ....like u can draw a modmapper increment setting of a a long curve, the same as with MSEG....i just dont know what MSEG does that makes it different than the other stuff
Sincerely,
Zethus, twin son of Zeus

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Cinebient wrote:When there is one thing i need within Zebra 3 it would be multi-threading.... but like it was written it seems not possible due to the architecture?!
I´m a bit scared if i can use Zebra 3 then :scared:
multi threading hm, Zebra 2 is actualy so CPU efficient that it doesn't really requiere multi threading. Probably Zebra 3 will need some more power but u-he is working on improving algorythms with that research synths. So maybe we see a big performance boost and Zebra 3 won't need multithreading as well..
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zethus909 wrote: I still dont really know how to implement the MSEGs yet......i just started using modmapper and understanding it.....how does MSEG work with the arp.....is there secret things? I still dont understand the differences between the MSEGs and i honestly dont even use it...i guess i havent taken the time to learn what is actually possible...i know theres 4 of the them...but ....like u can draw a modmapper increment setting of a a long curve, the same as with MSEG....i just dont know what MSEG does that makes it different than the other stuff
maybe read about them in the manual, they are basically modulation sources wich can be drawn to your likening.
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Suloo wrote:
Cinebient wrote:When there is one thing i need within Zebra 3 it would be multi-threading.... but like it was written it seems not possible due to the architecture?!
I´m a bit scared if i can use Zebra 3 then :scared:
multi threading hm, Zebra 2 is actualy so CPU efficient that it doesn't really requiere multi threading. Probably Zebra 3 will need some more power but u-he is working on improving algorythms with that research synths. So maybe we see a big performance boost and Zebra 3 won't need multithreading as well..
It´s easy to break my cpu with Zebra HZ :D
And multi-threading (if possible) is always a future proof option for wild patches :P

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Cinebient wrote:
Suloo wrote:
Cinebient wrote:When there is one thing i need within Zebra 3 it would be multi-threading.... but like it was written it seems not possible due to the architecture?!
I´m a bit scared if i can use Zebra 3 then :scared:
multi threading hm, Zebra 2 is actualy so CPU efficient that it doesn't really requiere multi threading. Probably Zebra 3 will need some more power but u-he is working on improving algorythms with that research synths. So maybe we see a big performance boost and Zebra 3 won't need multithreading as well..
It´s easy to break my cpu with Zebra HZ :D
And multi-threading (if possible) is always a future proof option for wild patches :P
My guess is that Z3 will have the multi-threading...

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TrueAndFalse wrote:When I buy Zebra2 yet, the price for the Zebra3 update will be 30$?
Urs wrote: Price for Zebra2: 199$
Price for Zebra3: 249$
Upgrade V2->V3: 30$
Upgrade from Zebra2 + The Dark Zebra: Free
I think it's clear. If you get Z2 now, you'll pay $199 and later $30 for the upgrade.

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Thank you for the info. I don't find it myself in this long thread.

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