Ah! I remember this photo from when I was looking for information about the Latin Percussion.sinkmusic wrote:Yes, Moritz von Oswald :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Channel
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... -gear.html
I never played the DR55 but I have the SR88 (the blue version, I think should be older than the grey/black version). Very, very interesting machine and a very good companion of the Latin Percussion. We'll definitely do a similar plugin with the SR88 sounds.sinkmusic wrote:The SR88 is really lovely. It's always said to be a DR55 clone, but it isn't.
When I first saw it on eBay I was just looking around for any kind of analog drum machine. At first I laughed, then after listening one of the few videos on youtube I fell in love. CompletelySpitfire31 wrote:I bought Latin Percussion on sight and don't regret it for a second, even if I'm not that much into Latin rhythms. The main reason was that it just appeals to me and seems to be (later, proved to be) so very well thought out. And some light Latin spicing will add something in many genres, too.
Sounds like a very good idea! As said before I'm already working on a few drum machine and a HiHat dedicated plugin, but this could be next. I've added it to my (loooong) list of ideas to explore.Spitfire31 wrote:Since you seem to be into one-off drum machines, I'd most of all love to have a Cajun/Creole/Zydeco/roots rhytm box – with tee-fer (petit fer) triangle, several versions of washboard frottoir, spoons, etc.
I've searched and searched and there's nothing like it. How about it?
Thanks! I have plans to add velocity settings like I have for Hand Clapper. It's coming for sure.ras.s wrote:So, I thought this was a interesting concept and caved in and bought it. I usually don't buy plugins without being able to demo them, but decided to give this one a chance. It's quite a lot of fun, I must admit. Very limited of course and no velocity sensitivity, but part of the appeal type of thing. I do use this type of electronic percussion sounds in my music so it fits in quite well. Who plays one bongo, though?
Absolutely, I'm considering adding separate outputs for each sound but I have to test several things as I never did something like that in the past. Might not happen soon, but it's on the to-do list.ras.s wrote:I do think it could really benefit from having a second output. I mean, when I'm mixing a dub, I don't like having low/mid range and higher frequency percussion on one track, as it can lead to muddying the mix. Sure, I can pan the sounds hard to the left and to the right and then split the track in my host, but it's always a bit of a hassle to set up. And so is bouncing submixes.
This is interesting indeed, but probably not really possible. I guess that in a live situation triggering different MIDI regions would be more ideal, but I'll think about it.ras.s wrote:And as it's already possible to switch the patterns on the fly without changing the entire preset (ie. without changing the sound settings), I think it provides a good possibility to make this into a proper performance instrument by allowing the musician to control those changes over MIDI. For example with a MIDI footpedal or a grid controller, or good ol' split keyboard. I mean it's possible to change the pattern from the menu in the lower left area, it would be cool to select a set of those patterns and then change between those by sending MIDI notes to the plugin.
That's the plan! I'm already working on the SR-88: https://www.instagram.com/p/_HeLF8G6kf/ras.s wrote:Anyways, cool little plugin, I'm sure I'll find it useful. The sounds are well selected and the drive gives more variety. You've got a good foundation for a more feature-packed sequencer right here and I hope you build further on it (not necessarily into this plugin).
When you compare the labels 'Pitch'. They are more away from the know below. My eyes can follow these labels better.
stardustmedia - high end analog music services - murat You can actually use the built-in MIDI learn feature in Logic (or other DAWs) for most of the controls (including the mute buttons, but not the other Random/Randomize/Clear etc...), it's probably faster and better.stardustmedia wrote:- MIDI learn for the parameters in the sound & master section, the Random button on top, the sequencer buttons 'Mute', 'Solo', 'Random', 'Randomize at every cycle' and 'Delete. Also the 'Pattern Up' and 'Pattern Down' see below
That's possible yes, I can add the play button as a parameter so it can be automated.stardustmedia wrote:- Probably also MIDI learn for the sequencer turn on/off and sequencer tempo. Although then the question has to be first resolved on how the sequence will catch up with the host again. Plus there seem to be some issues with the synchronisation (see below)
What I can do is perhaps add two more keys for pattern switching (like C1 and D1, for example), that wouldn't require additional GUI work and could be probably faster for the user.stardustmedia wrote:- Add up and down arrows for easy pattern switching. Important that they can be assigned to a MIDI controller
I'm not sure there's space for that, I'll see what I can do.stardustmedia wrote:- Add a "screen" that shows the selected pattern. Let's say in between the buttons 'Patterns' and 'Tempo'
Hmm, since there are no samples this might be a bit different. What you could try is having a symbolic link (or even an alias) on the other machine that points to the folder with the presets, it should work (as far as I remember) but otherwise will be easy to fix.stardustmedia wrote:- A button in the 'More' menu to open the preset path.
- A function to change the preset path to a individual user path (I guess you remember the discussion for Hand Clapper, something similar)
Good point, the plugin has actually the grab focus option turned off already, I guess I'll check if there's something else to change.stardustmedia wrote:- Hard to explain: Please let keyboard entries "thru". As soon as I click into the plugin window, and then hit 'Enter' on the keyboard, Logic isn't playing back, but the plugin redoes its last action, for instance Bypass. Which is quite annoying, because then I click into Logic, hit 'Enter' and Latin Percussion isn't playing, because I accidentally bypassed it. Hand Clapper and Vinyl Strip do both feature this "keyboard" function.
Sure, makes sense. I'll do it.stardustmedia wrote:- A minor thing and probably it's just me anyway: Is it still possible to move the labels 'Drive' and 'Reverb' upwards. I always assign these labels to the knob below, because they look closer to the button below than to the one above... So e.g. when I want to "drive" a sound I actually first turn the reverb up
For this I think it will be better if you contact me directly so I can track the issue. There is one thing to say though. The sequencer will usually start from step 1 no matter where the playback is, so always make sure you are on the beginning of a measure. You can change behaviour and also switch to start/stop with keys in the Settings page (click on More button). The key start/stop feature might actually fix all sync issues as I've seen lots of inconsistencies between several DAWs.stardustmedia wrote:And here some issues I found:
- BLOCKER: In a busy session, the sequencer has heavy sync-issues. It doesn't sync at all. It doesn't resync after stop and restart playback. It plays the same tempo, but totally off. Sorry I can't tell you more details. If you have any idea on how I can check what details, I'm glad to help.
- The sequencer position marker is ahead, about half a beat. It starts from position 2 or 3, after I stopped and restarted playback. But this issue doesn't always happen. Sometimes it goes away after a while. Maybe the tubes need some warm up
As before, check the Settings with the other features and see how it goes. One thing I noticed is that yes, using the Enter on the num pad should reset the sequencer and it doesn't.stardustmedia wrote:Different synchronisation behaviours for DAW Play and Stop:
- No cycle or cycle activated, start playback, hit 'Enter' during playback: Logic restarts from the beginning, but sequencer doesn't sync back to the start. When I constantly hit 'Enter' on the numeric pad, the sequencer even skips a couple beats each time I hit 'Enter'.
- No cycle, start playback, hit 'Space' or '0' (zero), everything stops. Hit 'Space' or 'Enter' again to restart playback. Logic continues where it stopped, but the sequencer restarts from 1.
- This one's actually how I'd expect it: Cycle activated, start playback, hit 'Space' or '0' (zero). Everything stops. Hit again 'Space' or 'Enter', Logic and sequencer restart. Logic from cycle start and sequence from 1.
I have a blue version now, I had a grey version. I don't think that there's much difference. I also have another Sound Master preset rhythm box, I don't recall the number.audiothing wrote:Ah! I remember this photo from when I was looking for information about the Latin Percussion.sinkmusic wrote:Yes, Moritz von Oswald :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Channel
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... -gear.html
Nice gear, I didn't pay attention to who was the owner!
I never played the DR55 but I have the SR88 (the blue version, I think should be older than the grey/black version). Very, very interesting machine and a very good companion of the Latin Percussion. We'll definitely do a similar plugin with the SR88 sounds.sinkmusic wrote:The SR88 is really lovely. It's always said to be a DR55 clone, but it isn't.
It would be nice to know more about Sound Master in general, they seem to have disappeared.
stardustmedia - high end analog music services - murat I have the blue as well!ghettosynth wrote:I have a blue version now, I had a grey version. I don't think that there's much difference. I also have another Sound Master preset rhythm box, I don't recall the number.
I have no idea why I hold onto this sort of vintage drum machine, I really never use them in tracks. I have a Roland TR-77 and a Univox SR-95 as well. I should just put the lot on ebay.
Ok I might have found the problem with Logic (other hosts like Live are probably more stable anyway), I'm testing a new build on a very heavy project and so far the sync seems perfect. Please, contact me whenever you have time.stardustmedia wrote:The out of sync issue, is actually not a blocker (will edit my post). There is the work around of using MIDI. But swapping thru the presets is going to be easier if the sequencer is in-sync. No need to export the MIDI patterns every time.
One thing though when using MIDI. The cycle pattern randomizer cannot be used.
audiothing wrote:Absolutely, I'm considering adding separate outputs for each sound but I have to test several things as I never did something like that in the past. Might not happen soon, but it's on the to-do list.ras.s wrote:I do think it could really benefit from having a second output. I mean, when I'm mixing a dub, I don't like having low/mid range and higher frequency percussion on one track, as it can lead to muddying the mix. Sure, I can pan the sounds hard to the left and to the right and then split the track in my host, but it's always a bit of a hassle to set up. And so is bouncing submixes.
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