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Tone2 will release Icarus - 3D WaveTable Synthesizer
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Not exactly sure what you mean with "clipped decay shape" but all 4 AHDSR envelopes got a bipolar "Shape" knob that adjusts the shape of both the Decay and Release stage.Igro wrote:Does it have a clipped decay shape, as all they synths?
UPDATE:
Based on the posts below i guess i misunderstood what Igro was talking about.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
This is the second time i read that you're complaining about the Tone2's synths' envelopes. What exactly do you mean with a "clipped decay shape"?Igro wrote:Does it have a clipped decay shape, as all they synths?
- KVRAF
- 5542 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
chk071 wrote:This is the second time i read that you're complaining about the Tone2's synths' envelopes. What exactly do you mean with a "clipped decay shape"?Igro wrote:Does it have a clipped decay shape, as all they synths?

And no, everything is perfectly set up and notes are hold properly. Tone2 synths are the only ones that gate decay tail too audibly. Marcus said this is for keeping the CPU low, but I think it's just to lame to leave it so audibly and obvious. Other developers give much longer time for decay to fade out to preserve smoothness.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
How did you check that? I just tried with VPS Scope, with the amp envelope, and can't reproduce such a thing. Attack, sustain and release all set to 0, and only decay stage at about 65%. Behaves like it should.


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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I could do that, but you can see that it's already fading out perfectly. That surely is NOT audible.Igro wrote:Increase the resolution.
It's from Electra2.Igro wrote: I was referring to their other synths - Gladiator, ElectraX and others.
Why? It won't show anything else than what Scope already shows.Igro wrote: And use a proper wave editor, for instance, Wavosour.
Don't get me wrong, not saying that what you say is wrong (for Electra2 it is though), but instead of a hand drawn sketch, you should simply post a screenshot from what your audio editor shows. Or easier, what a scope shows when you do it in your DAW.
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- KVRAF
- 2521 posts since 3 Jun, 2005 from Italy
Funny, I worked extensively with Nemesis, Saurus, and Rayblaster, and to a lesser degree with Elektra, but I never noticed anything like that... could it be a problem with your set up?
- KVRAF
- 5542 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
It's audible for me, your ears can be different. And Wavosour shows it clearly.chk071 wrote:I could do that, but you can see that it's already fading out perfectly. That surely is NOT audible.Igro wrote:Increase the resolution.It's from Electra2.Igro wrote: I was referring to their other synths - Gladiator, ElectraX and others.Why? It won't show anything else than what Scope already shows.Igro wrote: And use a proper wave editor, for instance, Wavosour.
Don't get me wrong, not saying that what you say is wrong (for Electra2 it is though), but instead of a hand drawn sketch, you should simply post a screenshot from what your audio editor shows. Or easier, what a scope shows when you do it in your DAW.
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- 5542 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
I will do this, but a bit later. I have to download the demo again.chk071 wrote:Then post a screenshot of your measuring please, and state on which synth you noticed that, then at least one can try to reproduce it.
