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Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:38 am

Your products are vst only yet they are mostly post production/mixing tools IMO. I only mix in Protools and Im sure many other are the same given its the standard mixing DAW. Maybe you should consider AAX format now you have a nice selection of products. Id certainly buy them. They're not much use to me in Ableton though, especially the multiband side chain shaper and the panner. They'd come real handy in Protools though. Even the filter shaper, see that's something Id use in the mixing stage also, especially its dual band. Dont have anything like that.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:11 pm

Wasn't there at least the RTAS (PT10) of Filtershaper 3.x released afair?

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:34 pm

murnau wrote:Wasn't there at least the RTAS (PT10) of Filtershaper 3.x released afair?

Yes. If you own FilterShaper 3, you can still download an older version - v3.1.7 - from your user account, which supports RTAS. We dropped RTAS support some time after Pro Tools dropped it.

On request, we also offer the old VolumeShaper 3 for new customers, which supports RTAS.

And yes, many users ask for AAX. But: If we support it, this will need some time to develop, and we cannot develop other plugins or features during that time. But more importantly, I fear the added amount of constant work that it takes to support yet another format.

We know that quite some users use our plugins with plugin wrappers such as Blue Cat's PatchWork, but we have not tested this ourselves (Blue Cat offers a demo version that you can give a try, though).

Having said that, I am still quite sure that we'll support AAX at some point, we get so many requests for it, yet I cannot say right now when it will be.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:36 pm

Kinh wrote:Your products are vst only yet they are mostly post production/mixing tools IMO. I only mix in Protools and Im sure many other are the same given its the standard mixing DAW. Maybe you should consider AAX format now you have a nice selection of products. Id certainly buy them. They're not much use to me in Ableton though, especially the multiband side chain shaper and the panner. They'd come real handy in Protools though. Even the filter shaper, see that's something Id use in the mixing stage also, especially its dual band. Dont have anything like that.

They are Vst and AU, for use in PT BlueCats Patchwork is really the answer. I would also say that they are creative tools too, not just mixing.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:09 am

If you were to go the aax path I could guarantee you'd double if not triple your sales. To my knowledge there's only one other multiband side chain on the market and its $120. Lfo Tool is the same price as yours yet it doesn't do multiband. There's a few filter shapers out there too like Melda but it takes too long drawing in the shapes, with the Melda one anyway. Lfo tool is ok, though it crashes Ableton, works good in Protools but as I said, it isn't multiband, though it is a filter and volume...and pan.

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:58 am

Kinh wrote:.. Lfo tool is ok, though it crashes Ableton, works good in Protools but as I said, it isn't multiband, though it is a filter and volume...and pan.

I thought to mention it, as it's easy to oversee: FilterShaper does not only offer two filters, but also panning modulation and volume modulation. If the filters are set to off, you can still use panning and volume modulation from FilterShaper's Master section.

FilterShaper looks huge, but the inactive parts will practically take no CPU (especially if the UI is not visible).

FilterShaper has two LFOs (and their intensity and speed can be modulated with additional LFOs) and an envelope follower - per parameter. FilterShaper does not offer multiband, though.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:27 pm

Jakob / Cableguys wrote:
Kinh wrote:.. Lfo tool is ok, though it crashes Ableton, works good in Protools but as I said, it isn't multiband, though it is a filter and volume...and pan.
I thought to mention it, as it's easy to oversee: FilterShaper does not only offer two filters, but also panning modulation and volume modulation. If the filters are set to off, you can still use panning and volume modulation from FilterShaper's Master section.

FilterShaper looks huge, but the inactive parts will practically take no CPU (especially if the UI is not visible).

FilterShaper has two LFOs (and their intensity and speed can be modulated with additional LFOs) and an envelope follower - per parameter. FilterShaper does not offer multiband, though.

I see. I didn't know that. Haven't actually used any of your products, just seen youtube demos and they look really impressive. Dont wanna try them out cause Ill end up buying them just for the hell of it. But as I said, I would if I could use them for mixing.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:50 pm

core wrote:
Cinebient wrote:Edit: Could i load Midi Shaper as Midi FX plug-in in Logic? Would be insta buy...
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Thank's!
Works easy.
But @Cableguys wouldn't it be possible to release it as Midi FX plug-in (like Cthulhu)?

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:00 pm

Jakob / Cableguys wrote:
Kinh wrote:.. Lfo tool is ok, though it crashes Ableton, works good in Protools but as I said, it isn't multiband, though it is a filter and volume...and pan.
I thought to mention it, as it's easy to oversee: FilterShaper does not only offer two filters, but also panning modulation and volume modulation. If the filters are set to off, you can still use panning and volume modulation from FilterShaper's Master section.

FilterShaper looks huge, but the inactive parts will practically take no CPU (especially if the UI is not visible).

FilterShaper has two LFOs (and their intensity and speed can be modulated with additional LFOs) and an envelope follower - per parameter. FilterShaper does not offer multiband, though.

FilterShaper would get more use from me if the filters went below 50 Hz. If I remember, the filter range is 50 Hz up to 18.1 kHz. Are there plans to increase the range of the filters?

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:14 am

Kinh wrote:
Jakob / Cableguys wrote:
Kinh wrote:.. Lfo tool is ok, though it crashes Ableton, works good in Protools but as I said, it isn't multiband, though it is a filter and volume...and pan.
I thought to mention it, as it's easy to oversee: FilterShaper does not only offer two filters, but also panning modulation and volume modulation. If the filters are set to off, you can still use panning and volume modulation from FilterShaper's Master section.

FilterShaper looks huge, but the inactive parts will practically take no CPU (especially if the UI is not visible).

FilterShaper has two LFOs (and their intensity and speed can be modulated with additional LFOs) and an envelope follower - per parameter. FilterShaper does not offer multiband, though.
I see. I didn't know that. Haven't actually used any of your products, just seen youtube demos and they look really impressive. Dont wanna try them out cause Ill end up buying them just for the hell of it. But as I said, I would if I could use them for mixing.

You're going to love Filter Shaper 3 (even if AAX is supported yet).

I really like the top-down aproach for a dedicated panning tool. Ever since I first started working in the box, I've always hated the horizontal view for panning. It does take some getting used to, but again I like it better.

Will be purchasing soon.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:49 am

Any users of Audio Damage Panstation able to compare these? Hope I don't come off as hijacking this thread but thought it would be a good comparison. Same price point and has similar functionality (However, with Cableguys allowing you to draw in the pan shape).

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:55 am

masterhiggins wrote:Any users of Audio Damage Panstation able to compare these? Hope I don't come off as hijacking this thread but thought it would be a good comparison. Same price point and has similar functionality (However, with Cableguys allowing you to draw in the pan shape).

Panshaper has multiband which is a huge difference, also more extensive shape control. The only thing Panshaper doesn't have is input triggering/ dynamic panning.

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:59 am

woodsdenis wrote:The only thing Panshaper doesn't have is input triggering/ dynamic panning.

You can trigger PanShaper via MIDI notes (but you cannot trigger via audio..)

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:05 am

Jakob / Cableguys wrote:
woodsdenis wrote:The only thing Panshaper doesn't have is input triggering/ dynamic panning.
You can trigger PanShaper via MIDI notes (but you cannot trigger via audio..)

Which in reality is a great unique feature, using this all the time and it really is the only panning plug your will need. My trusty Soundtoys Panman is not getting much love now

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:14 am

Jakob / Cableguys wrote:
woodsdenis wrote:The only thing Panshaper doesn't have is input triggering/ dynamic panning.
You can trigger PanShaper via MIDI notes (but you cannot trigger via audio..)

I'll add that to my wish list for panshaper.

Congrats on this release though.

Cableguys PanShaper - multiband stereo modulation and width control