KVR Audio

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:08 pm

And it been widely expressed that 'quantum' computing isnt suitable for all tasks

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:13 pm

Something minimal with 2 instances of KS processing the same synth sequence (which is audible on it's own at the beginning of the track).

https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... -patchpool

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:34 pm

very Kraut this one sounds like.
Neo Cluster from Sampleconstructius.

Love that!

( but Kaleidoscope is above my budget and my poor computer's power )

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:49 pm

OK, now we are getting somewhere... It's been kicking out butts to get here, but at the moment we seem to be at about 2x as fast/efficient as the shipping version!

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:21 pm

Galbanum wrote:OK, now we are getting somewhere... It's been kicking out butts to get here, but at the moment we seem to be at about 2x as fast/efficient as the shipping version!

das ist fantastisch!

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:11 pm

Galbanum wrote:OK, now we are getting somewhere... It's been kicking out butts to get here, but at the moment we seem to be at about 2x as fast/efficient as the shipping version!

I'm patiently (yeah right) awaiting the ability to use the plugin with none 256 units of buffers

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:41 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
Galbanum wrote:OK, now we are getting somewhere... It's been kicking out butts to get here, but at the moment we seem to be at about 2x as fast/efficient as the shipping version!
I'm patiently (yeah right) awaiting the ability to use the plugin with none 256 units of buffers

Very small buffers are still going to be a challenge I am afraid... We will be exploring buffer stuff now one last time, and see what can be done, if anything, but I don't think there is any magic trick that can make performance the same at 64 samples vs 2048 or whatever...

but with large buffer today Denis sees 21 simultaneous instances on his Skylake 6700k machine using Test Prest 1 attached earlier in the thread (a max CPU usage Spring/sine resonator test). Consider this is equivalent to something like:

20,000 band EQ/filter
+
40,000 LFOs

!!

on a 4 core machine!

He can do 7 using the shipping version you guys have... This is 3x improvement! Which is pretty f-ing incredible I must confess... Speedup on the latest CPUs is really quite good now. Less so on older CPUs, but still good. I see more like 2x on my 12-core Mac Pro when measuring render times for long files which is a good test of efficiency... but I am running inside Parallels, and when I test the actual OSX build it might end up even better. We will see...

As always it's kinda dangerous to talk about this stuff while we are still working away (as things can always change), but this was too exciting not to share...

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:26 pm

Galbanum wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
Galbanum wrote:OK, now we are getting somewhere... It's been kicking out butts to get here, but at the moment we seem to be at about 2x as fast/efficient as the shipping version!
I'm patiently (yeah right) awaiting the ability to use the plugin with none 256 units of buffers
Very small buffers are still going to be a challenge I am afraid... We will be exploring buffer stuff now one last time, and see what can be done, if anything, but I don't think there is any magic trick that can make performance the same at 64 samples vs 2048 or whatever...
...
As always it's kinda dangerous to talk about this stuff while we are still working away (as things can always change), but this was too exciting not to share...

To make sure we are talking about the same thing, I can't use even 1 instance of Kaleidoscope because I can't set my audio card to a multiple of 256. I'd be happy with the old performance people get if they can use those multiples. It's not a matter of small or large buffer settings for me. I'd be happy with ANY buffer settings that work on my 980x machine.

By the way, I prefer you live dangerously and talk about what you are working on. I think most people understand it's a work in progress . "current results are not an indicator of future returns" to quote the stock market dudes...

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:42 am

SJ_Digriz wrote: ... I can't use even 1 instance of Kaleidoscope because I can't set my audio card to a multiple of 256.

Is that a feature of that particular sound card or a missing feature?

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:34 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: ... I can't use even 1 instance of Kaleidoscope because I can't set my audio card to a multiple of 256.
Is that a feature of that particular sound card or a missing?

We had/have some issues with buffer sizes that are not 2^n size (i.e. a power of two). Some firewire devices fall into this category.

This is something we are addressing, yes.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:11 pm

Galbanum wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: ... I can't use even 1 instance of Kaleidoscope because I can't set my audio card to a multiple of 256.
Is that a feature of that particular sound card or a missing?
We had/have some issues with buffer sizes that are not 2^n size (i.e. a power of two). Some firewire devices fall into this category.

This is something we are addressing, yes.

Yes, we've had that discussion before. And you suggested the upcoming release may alleviate the problem with cards that can't do multiples of 256. And yes it is a Fireware Aurora 8.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:12 pm

By the way, I can't remember if our discussion was via the support ticket or in this threads .. but, you appropriately caveated the statement with lots of "its possible" and "maybe". So, my expectation is that the next release MIGHT solve or at least alleviate the non-256 buffers problem. So, I won't go on some internet witch hunt if it doesn't. But, I'd sure like to be able to use the plugin

shroom81 · Post by **shroom81** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:03 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote: But, I'd sure like to be able to use the plugin

No offense but maybe it's time to upgrade your computer ?

shroom81 · Post by **shroom81** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:05 pm

shroom81 wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: But, I'd sure like to be able to use the plugin
No offense but maybe it's time to upgrade your computer ?

Ps. Have you checked asio4all for the latency ? Might be able to set the buffer size to 256 samples there. Lol was going to edit the other post but pressed "quote"

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:50 pm

shroom81 wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: But, I'd sure like to be able to use the plugin
No offense but maybe it's time to upgrade your computer ?

No offense but you don't understand the problem.

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