MeldaProduction

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:34 pm

Hey folks,

if I'd buy a plugin, would I also own the multiband version of it? If not, are there any disadvantages to use a multiband plugin with only a single band?

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:43 pm

No disadvantages at all. At the top of the plugin you can have it run in just 1 band.
I'mpretty sure the 2 are different, so you would need to buy the multiband version.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:55 am

Yes, you need to buy each separately of course. But for most cases only the multiband version is commercial, the other is often free. Anyways there is generally no disadvantage of using just the multiband version.

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:41 pm

Thank you! Then I think I will stay with the internal Bitwig Studio multiband splitting. Since your ui is really uncomfortable to me, MRingModulator is the only plugin I was interested in.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:56 pm

MirkoVanHauten wrote:Since your ui is really uncomfortable to me

Only when you start using the plug-ins. Select a suitable style, set the colours and use the plug-ins for a while. After that, they can be very quick to use. And once you have learned you way around one, using the others will be quick too.

Download / install MRingModulator and give it a go.

Or, is there something specific about the GUI that you find awkward?

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:56 pm

Hello DarkStar. Well, I used MRingModulation for quite a time but I can't get used to. I always think about twice before using it and sometimes I decide to use another ringmod instead

I know you can modify the style and I also downloaded different ones. But that is not important to me. I don't care if it has knobs or sliders, if it's red or blue. I care more about the layout. I like "more important" knobs and names to be bigger than the others. I like them to be grouped and named in a useful way. So it just feels more organic.

Without saying it negative: but I have the feeling these plugins get developed too automatically. I mean the developers can say "add these 10 parameter" and they get added and positioned inside a fixed raster. Some other companies spend much time designing the ui, so that for example the mouse-movement for important controls is as low as possible. They can get resized and stylized, too. The "added value" that you can style the Melda Production and collapse controls, isn't one to me.
I feel better off if the developer has taken over the intelligent design and offers me an user interface just to work with.

For example: I had a look at the recent one synth challenge with MPowerSynth. I wanted to participate, but I had trouble with the easiest things like finding the arpeggiator.
Or, I tried the analyzer plugin and found it very irritating that the peak info containers jumped from one peak to another, depending on which was the highest. I couldn't read them cause they jumped too fast.

I am sorry if this sounds too negative. I don't want to offend someone!

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:35 pm

I agree with Mirko. Melda is for tweakers. The easy screens often are missing important values, e.g. hpf filter for delay, so I have to change in the edit mode. A big mistake there, the dry/wet button is hidden. It takes me some time to find that values. Like I often said, sound quality is really great, but usability is not the big part of melda plugins. The reaplugs of reaper are good examples for not good looking plugins, but they are straightforward and easy to handle. It doesn't stop me from creative mixing like melda plugins and that's the time creativity dies and fast mixing stops.
Nothing wrong with the quality, but handling, sorry, maybe melda is not my last plugin manufacturer, I hoped for.

Tagirijus · Post by **Tagirijus** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:29 pm

MirkoVanHauten wrote:For example: I had a look at the recent one synth challenge with MPowerSynth. I wanted to participate, but I had trouble with the easiest things like finding the arpeggiator.

In other plugins you could have the same problem, since (at least in my opinion and experience) this is just a matter of habbit and "knowing the plugin".

In general regarding your post: I would not call Melda stuff bad designed rather than more intelligent than others. Yes, the look very similar, but to me it's an advantage. In most plugins you will very fast know where a certain control is placed, since you probably will get used to the style of Melda plugins.

Of course some things can still be a matter of taste as well ... then you just have to use another tool, if it fits your needs in a better way.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:42 pm

Exactly. It's not for everyone. I hate GUIs that don't work like this, looking at some HW inspired stuff is impossible for me. And similarly there are others that like the HW stuff etc., no problem, then Melda plugins are just not for them

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MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:11 pm

Tagirijus wrote:then you just have to use another tool, if it fits your needs in a better way.

I'm totally fine with that

For example Valhalla or Fabfilters ui is also non HW related, but it just feels right.
It is okay. I know the gui stuff is a critical topic for itself at Melda Production. And I don't want to drift more offtopic. Thanks for the help!

steve2KVR · Post by **steve2KVR** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:41 pm

...sorry about being dense, but here at the back of the short bus none of us know what "HW related" means.../s~

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:47 pm

Sorry for my english. I'm from the Netherlands.

What I meant was user interfaces based on hardware with "realistic graphics".

steve2KVR · Post by **steve2KVR** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:57 pm

...your "english/american" is excellent...so no worries/apologies...just wasn't sure what your concerns were...and otoh i'm headed in the opposite direction for myself about the graphics/interface "fashion" in vogue these days...I'd rather get as much direct information about the parameters I'm changing than about having the "knob metaphor" look "authentic"...btjm...

/s~