Actually there's great thread about it in DSP forum, it's equally their fault too, their OS X coding skills and ability to quickly fix what is broken, they do have beta releases, yet some fail to deliver anyways. Sorry, but it's their job to support their customers too, easiest thing is to just blame Apple for it, but in reality, they aren't that innocent either, they know the drill and yet they fail again, far away from coincidence, there's new OS version every year with developers pre-releases. It's not like everybody fails, but that speaks great length about ones skills and commitment.Trancit wrote:tooneba wrote:Every support forum of every product is full of complaints regarding the Mac version and Apple has big fun to break every compatibility with every update they make.
This isn´t the fault of the third party companies... go and blame Apple for their crap....
Seriously WTF FL Studio...? + now with new OS hate underpinnings
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This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? 
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Linux with Reaper and Wine is THE answer. At least so i heard.masterhiggins wrote:Because some people find Windows as unsavory as hemorrhoids and prefer Logic?Trancit wrote:Exactly... I will never understand people prefering a Mac...especially for audio in the last few years...tooneba wrote:...
out of curiosity, are there any plugin work better on osx?
Every support forum of every product is full of complaints regarding the Mac version and Apple has big fun to break every compatibility with every update they make.
This isn´t the fault of the third party companies... go and blame Apple for their crap....
Then move ahead and buy a system that works
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- 8705 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
Personally, I thing Windows is a pile of stinking horse manure and I'd rather cut off my own dick using a plastic spoon than using Windows. That's why I prefer Macs.Trancit wrote: Exactly... I will never understand people prefering a Mac...especially for audio in the last few years...
Every support forum of every product is full of complaints regarding the Mac version and Apple has big fun to break every compatibility with every update they make.
This isn´t the fault of the third party companies... go and blame Apple for their crap....
Then move ahead and buy a system that works
That and Logic isn't half bad either.
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 8705 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
Did you hear it on "all major support forums"?chk071 wrote:Linux with Reaper and Wine is THE answer. At least so i heard.masterhiggins wrote:Because some people find Windows as unsavory as hemorrhoids and prefer Logic?Trancit wrote:Exactly... I will never understand people prefering a Mac...especially for audio in the last few years...tooneba wrote:...
out of curiosity, are there any plugin work better on osx?
Every support forum of every product is full of complaints regarding the Mac version and Apple has big fun to break every compatibility with every update they make.
This isn´t the fault of the third party companies... go and blame Apple for their crap....
Then move ahead and buy a system that works
That seems to be the preferred source of information around these parts.
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 6 Nov, 2012
That sounds painful. I don't wanna get hurt. Ima buy a mac.spaceman wrote:Personally, I thing Windows is a pile of stinking horse manure and I'd rather cut off my own dick using a plastic spoon than using Windows. That's why I prefer Macs.
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- 945 posts since 8 Dec, 2003 from Birmingham-ish, UK (Tamworth, but shhh!)
I'll stick to not cutting off my own dick, and putting up with the few bugs I get with FLS12.
I have had instances where I can't open the project files. It's annoying because the problem doesn't show up until you save and try top reload - so you can spend a lot of time and do a lot of work that ultimately gets lost. Turned out to always be certain plugins in use in those projects, so I stopped using those plugins in FLS. Solved. Not the best solution, as it stopped me using a plugin or two - both 32bit SynthEdit freebie type things, but better than having to fork out for another DAW (or go through the learning curve again).
I get less problems in 12 than I did with previous versions, but I've also gone through a "cleanup" of the plugins I use (since I found I wasn't using a lot of them, and don't like clutter for the sake of it). Consequently I tend to use native 64bit plugs mostly now. Maybe that's why it's more stable for me now? Anyway - worth doing some dummy projects with some plugins in to see if it's just certain ones causing the problem, or across the board. There are options for processing available for plugins, so if you can identify a problem plugin then you might be able to tweak how it's used by FLS and get it working. Didn't work for my two ofending plugins, but again - worth a try maybe?
I have had instances where I can't open the project files. It's annoying because the problem doesn't show up until you save and try top reload - so you can spend a lot of time and do a lot of work that ultimately gets lost. Turned out to always be certain plugins in use in those projects, so I stopped using those plugins in FLS. Solved. Not the best solution, as it stopped me using a plugin or two - both 32bit SynthEdit freebie type things, but better than having to fork out for another DAW (or go through the learning curve again).
I get less problems in 12 than I did with previous versions, but I've also gone through a "cleanup" of the plugins I use (since I found I wasn't using a lot of them, and don't like clutter for the sake of it). Consequently I tend to use native 64bit plugs mostly now. Maybe that's why it's more stable for me now? Anyway - worth doing some dummy projects with some plugins in to see if it's just certain ones causing the problem, or across the board. There are options for processing available for plugins, so if you can identify a problem plugin then you might be able to tweak how it's used by FLS and get it working. Didn't work for my two ofending plugins, but again - worth a try maybe?
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Nope. Just from these guys who hawk here (and elsewhere) sometimes:spaceman wrote:Did you hear it on "all major support forums"?chk071 wrote:Linux with Reaper and Wine is THE answer. At least so i heard.masterhiggins wrote:Because some people find Windows as unsavory as hemorrhoids and prefer Logic?Trancit wrote:Exactly... I will never understand people prefering a Mac...especially for audio in the last few years...tooneba wrote:...
out of curiosity, are there any plugin work better on osx?
Every support forum of every product is full of complaints regarding the Mac version and Apple has big fun to break every compatibility with every update they make.
This isn´t the fault of the third party companies... go and blame Apple for their crap....
Then move ahead and buy a system that works
That seems to be the preferred source of information around these parts.
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- KVRAF
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I would rather say most plugins have specific platform issues. Unless i get you wrong. Most changelogs list the fixes for the respective OS's.TheoM wrote: VERY few plugins have specific "platform issues".
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Not entirely sure what fantasy land some of these people live in, I use WIndows Linux and OSX, and there is no damn way that any is any better than any of the others overall, if you have convinced yourself of that it is because you are completely blinkered and have literally no idea what you are talking about, this idea that OSX is sooooo much better than Windows is so laughable it is unbelievable.
Duh
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Sorry I use all 3 too, but I prefer OS X by far, how that makes me ignorant again?bungle wrote:if you have convinced yourself of that it is because you are completely blinkered and have literally no idea what you are talking about
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? ShawnG
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I agree for Windows and MacOS, but Linux sucks big time, sorry. Every time i only look at it, it enriches my life with another bug to fix. As i'm not a notorious system admin and problem solver, i rather stay way from it for good now.bungle wrote:Not entirely sure what fantasy land some of these people live in, I use WIndows Linux and OSX, and there is no damn way that any is any better than any of the others overall, if you have convinced yourself of that it is because you are completely blinkered and have literally no idea what you are talking about, this idea that OSX is sooooo much better than Windows is so laughable it is unbelievable.
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- 3362 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Well if you WERE in fact a Linux user you would find that navigating in OSX's terminal is a much more familiar and direct experience, especially if you're scripting.bungle wrote:Not entirely sure what fantasy land some of these people live in, I use WIndows Linux and OSX, and there is no damn way that any is any better than any of the others overall, if you have convinced yourself of that it is because you are completely blinkered and have literally no idea what you are talking about, this idea that OSX is sooooo much better than Windows is so laughable it is unbelievable.