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rosschehayeb · Post by **rosschehayeb** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:24 am

Yeah I've played the prophet 6 many times and I agree, I like it more than the 08. So expensive though!

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:47 am

rosschehayeb wrote:Yeah I've played the prophet 6 many times and I agree, I like it more than the 08. So expensive though!

Well second market prices of P6 are now ~$1.9k and 08 ~$1.1k at least in USA

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:28 am

I'm still on the fence with the Prophet 6 and now also the new DSI/Oberheim. We got the DSI filter for Eurorack modulars. It sounds a tad harsher than, say, the filters of a Pro One or a Prophet 600. Or, in other words, I think that filters based on the CEM 3320 and 3372 chips sound smoother than filters based on the 3396. Somehow at high resonance there'd be more disturbance when the resonance breaks off from the input spectrum and when it aligns back. It's not too far off though and of course our Prophets are 30+ years old. We yet have to study the DSI in depth though, there may be more to say about it.

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:07 am

Urs wrote:I'm still on the fence with the Prophet 6 and now also the new DSI/Oberheim.

That's sad. Prophet 6 as well it's very similarly sounding brother OB-6 is quite a good synth for modern analog scene. Have you spend any time with it?

Urs wrote:We got the DSI filter for Eurorack modulars. It sounds a tad harsher than, say, the filters of a Pro One or a Prophet 600. Or, in other words, I think that filters based on the CEM 3320 and 3372 chips sound smoother than filters based on the 3396.

Well, AFAIK
DSI filter for eurorack is the same chip as was in P12 / P08 - tetra - mopho / evover
DSI filter on Prophet 6 is discrete SSM2040 clone.
DSI filter on OB 8 is discrete CEM3320 clone.
DSI filters on Pro2 are SSM2040 and CEM3320 clone.

So your comparison is not correct, there are certain resonance/cutoff harshness on P6 as well (noticable even on preset 001) but P6 unlike any vintage/analog/charming in basic tone of VCO and VCF that previous DSI synths lack

Urs wrote:Somehow at high resonance there'd be more disturbance when the resonance breaks off from the input spectrum and when it aligns back. It's not too far off though and of course our Prophets are 30+ years old. We yet have to study the DSI in depth though, there may be more to say about it.

Keep us posted, it's very interesting.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:18 am

david.beholder wrote:DSI filter on Prophet 6 is discrete SSM2040 clone.
DSI filter on OB 8 is discrete CEM3320 clone.
DSI filters on Pro2 are SSM2040 and CEM3320 clone.

Oi, I didn't know that.

(yes, I live under a rock atm...)

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:43 am

hehe, I guess I'll get to check them out next week. DSI is just downstairs from our stand at Superbooth 16.

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:47 am

Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:DSI filter on Prophet 6 is discrete SSM2040 clone.
DSI filter on OB 8 is discrete CEM3320 clone.
DSI filters on Pro2 are SSM2040 and CEM3320 clone.
Oi, I didn't know that.

(yes, I live under a rock atm...)

Heheheheeh
Mr. Underrorck please don't hesitate to ask if you need any additional info from captain obvious or sound samples of prophet 6

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:08 am

Urs wrote:hehe, I guess I'll get to check them out next week. DSI is just downstairs from our stand at Superbooth 16.

How far are you from MFB?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:11 am

david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote:hehe, I guess I'll get to check them out next week. DSI is just downstairs from our stand at Superbooth 16.
How far are you from MFB?

At Superbooth or within Berlin?

At Superbooth no longer than 2 minutes by foot, in Berlin about 20-30 minutes by car

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:25 am

Urs wrote: At Superbooth no longer than 2 minutes by foot, in Berlin about 20-30 minutes by car

At Superboot of course.

Please visit their boot and play Dominion 1 - and it's really best mono one could get under 1.5k with amazing oscs and filter.

May be you could figure out do they have poly synthin works and if no suggest them to work on one

))

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:01 am

david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote: At Superbooth no longer than 2 minutes by foot, in Berlin about 20-30 minutes by car
At Superboot of course.

Please visit their boot and play Dominion 1 - and it's really best mono one could get under 1.5k with amazing oscs and filter.

May be you could figure out do they have poly synthin works and if no suggest them to work on one ))

Oh, I've tried Dominion and loved it!

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:42 pm

david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote:I'm still on the fence with the Prophet 6 and now also the new DSI/Oberheim.
That's sad. Prophet 6 as well it's very similarly sounding brother OB-6 is quite a good synth for modern analog scene. Have you spend any time with it?

Urs wrote:We got the DSI filter for Eurorack modulars. It sounds a tad harsher than, say, the filters of a Pro One or a Prophet 600. Or, in other words, I think that filters based on the CEM 3320 and 3372 chips sound smoother than filters based on the 3396.
Well, AFAIK
DSI filter for eurorack is the same chip as was in P12 / P08 - tetra - mopho / evover
DSI filter on Prophet 6 is discrete SSM2040 clone.
DSI filter on OB 8 is discrete CEM3320 clone.
DSI filters on Pro2 are SSM2040 and CEM3320 clone.

So your comparison is not correct, there are certain resonance/cutoff harshness on P6 as well (noticable even on preset 001) but P6 unlike any vintage/analog/charming in basic tone of VCO and VCF that previous DSI synths lack

Urs wrote:Somehow at high resonance there'd be more disturbance when the resonance breaks off from the input spectrum and when it aligns back. It's not too far off though and of course our Prophets are 30+ years old. We yet have to study the DSI in depth though, there may be more to say about it.
Keep us posted, it's very interesting.

Just demoed both and the OB 6 is far from similar sounding to the Prophet 6.
The Filter is different 12P lowpass versus 24P and the Resonance is different sounding.
It has the Oberheim Waveforms versus Prophet Waveforms.

It also has Notch and Bandpass filter.

I tried to avoid my shop for a long time but i am happy that i did a visit 2days ago and went home with the OB6

I actually went there to buy the Roland D05 but ended up with a flatter wallet and a smile on my face

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:12 pm

Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:DSI filter on Prophet 6 is discrete SSM2040 clone.
DSI filter on OB 8 is discrete CEM3320 clone.
DSI filters on Pro2 are SSM2040 and CEM3320 clone.
Oi, I didn't know that.

(yes, I live under a rock atm...)

That's a little funny man. The entire point of the 2040 clone in the P6 is that it is in response to the market perception that the rev 1/2s are the superior prophets.

Any word on that CAT emulation?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:36 pm

ghettosynth wrote:Any word on that CAT emulation?

Temporarily sacrificed for the "I WANT POLY!1!!11!" response to Repro-1. As I posted elsewhere, everyone@u-he is slightly over emulation business at the moment, but it'll come back. Maybe after Z3 development.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:47 pm

Urs wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:Any word on that CAT emulation?
Temporarily sacrificed for the "I WANT POLY!1!!11!" response to Repro-1. As I posted elsewhere, everyone@u-he is slightly over emulation business at the moment, but it'll come back. Maybe after Z3 development.

Yeah, well, I was just trying to take advantage of this thread to talk about something interesting for once.

What about Super ACE 2000 (with 2040 filter, of course)?

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