Tracktion Software

jules · Post by **jules** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:36 pm

Ok, this won't be of any relevance to 99% of tracktioneers, but I know there's a few of you who've dabbled in programming, so you'll probably find this quite interesting.

It's taken a while to get this ready for the public, but I've just posted up the first version of my JUCE C++ cross-platform application library.

This is what makes up nearly half of tracktion's codebase and does all the low-level stuff like the UI, data structures, audio i/o, midi i/o, etc. It's not just for audio, it's a general purpose library for writing applications that work on the PC and Mac, and I'm open-sourcing it under the GPL because I'm a generous kind of guy.

So if your C++ skills are up to it and you want a behind-the-scenes look at what tracktion is sitting on top of, please take a look:

http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/juce

And if you have any geeky programmer friends, please tell them about it too.

Probably the most interesting potential use of this to KVRers would be that it'd make a great tool for writing cross-platform VSTs or AUs in. I've not actually done any work on this yet, but it should be easy to create a JUCE audio effect base class that could be recompiled to run on either PC/OSX as a VST/DX/AU/etc without needing to change any of the UI or audio code at all..

dto · Post by **dto** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:48 pm

Super cool! I look forward to checking it out.

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:57 pm

damn you! now I'lll have no choice but to crack open my dusty c++ books...

lalo · Post by **lalo** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:01 pm

Great jules!!!
nice idea to gpl it!
lalo

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:04 pm

So I'm looking at the demo and I want to cry!

Jules, it so potentially good that this might honestly make me dive back into c++. I've had absolutely no urge until now....

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:04 pm

Jules, is that under the GPL (ie if we make anything with JUCE we have to provide all sourcecode, and therefore we cant use any non-open-source libraries et.c. with it) or LGPL (we can link it as a library, and use any other libraries, and not have to release our own code).

jules · Post by **jules** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:15 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:Jules, is that under the GPL (ie if we make anything with JUCE we have to provide all sourcecode, and therefore we cant use any non-open-source libraries et.c. with it) or LGPL (we can link it as a library, and use any other libraries, and not have to release our own code).

it's GPL - that means I can charge companies who want to use it for a commercial product. Similar kind of deal to libraries like Qt.

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:21 pm

jules wrote: It's taken a while to get this ready for the public, but I've just posted up the first version of my JUCE C++ cross-platform application library.

This looks excellent! I've been toying with the idea of writing my own plugins a bit but the all the grunt work required just to get started has really put me off. Thanks!

How hard to you think it would be to integrate bindings for a scripting language like Python or Ruby into this framework?

jules · Post by **jules** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:29 pm

kuniklo wrote: How hard to you think it would be to integrate bindings for a scripting language like Python or Ruby into this framework?

well it shouldn't make any difference really - I guess it'd be the same as adding bindings to any other c++ program.

Karbon L. Forms · Post by **Karbon L. Forms** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:45 pm

Mushroom cloud laying motherf**ker motherf**ker. I think I've just shot my load.

Karbon L. Forms · Post by **Karbon L. Forms** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:50 pm

Wheres yer fuckin delphi now ya jobby jabbing bunch o poofters!
Oh shite. I need to lie down. NO! go to pub and rejoice.

Jules!

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:03 pm

You are awesome.

absolutely awesome

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:12 pm

jules wrote:Ok, this won't be of any relevance to 99% of tracktioneers, but I know there's a few of you who've dabbled in programming, so you'll probably find this quite interesting.

Jules Jules Jules...very smart move indeed. I certainly think you are a generous guy..who would build a sequencer as good as Tracktion and only charge 50 notes for it!

I also think your move is going to really open the flood gates for possible plugs being developed for Tracktion which is a great prospect!

This reminds me of Linus Torvalds early days with Linux...by opening his software development tools up to the public he effectively started a huge community of followers developing their own versions of Linux so this is a generous and shrewd move indeed , very shrewd.

It should be very good news for Tracktioneers for the future.There are a few very generous programmers who will be hopefully sharing their developments with the rest of the Tracktion community.

Good move Jules.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:14 pm

damn, I thought youd have svg import done...

damn damn damn.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:14 pm

jules quoth
it's GPL - that means I can charge companies who want to use it for a commercial product. Similar kind of deal to libraries like Qt.

So no non-open source libraries can be used with it. Have the VST libraries been open-sourced then? I know VSTGUI has, but if the VST SDK hasnt been, no-one can actually use this to make VST plugins...

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