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[VitaminD]

The sale terms, and thus usage of paypal, are not dictated by personal relationship between buyer and seller. There is a buyer and there is a seller. They could be best friends for 40 years. If they are using paypal to buy/sell an item, they are at obligation to the terms of paypal for a purchase transaction. There is no grey area regarding this matter.

Of course not, how would paypal otherwise manage to earn $8 billion a year

http://uk.businessinsider.com/paypal-pr ... ?r=US&IR=T

Why does that matter to you? Besides, you're changing the subject..

[Numanoid]

Why does that matter to you? Besides, you're changing the subject..

Ooops, did I break the law again

Talk about wannabe forum cop

EDIT: To the below troll poster, putting your claim like a question shows that you got no argument. That is how Fox News operate.

[VitaminD]

Why does that matter to you? Besides, you're changing the subject..

Ooops, did I break the law again

Talk about wannabe forum cop

So you really don't have any defensible rebuttal to abusing the paypal TOS?

[chroma]

can you point out where he's violating the TOS?

i read it, and nowhere does it say that if you buy something, you have to pay for it that way (but i could have missed something?). however, you won't get buyer protection, so you are 'buying' something with those fees. up to you whether you need it or not.

[elxsound]

Why does that matter to you? Besides, you're changing the subject..

Ooops, did I break the law again

Talk about wannabe forum cop

EDIT: To the below troll poster, putting your claim like a question shows that you got no argument. That is how Fox News operate.

And its not a law, its the terms of service agreement.

The way it is designed, it is built on the honor system.

Just like any rule, or any other law (not that this is one because its not), people choose or choose not to abide by them. People choose to break rules all the time.

I personally choose goods and services for a transaction, but haven't aways. I can't say I always will either... Maybe I'm just a badass, or maybe I'm just human. Who knows these days.

[elxsound]

can you point out where he's violating the TOS?

i read it, and nowhere does it say that if you buy something, you have to pay for it that way (but i could have missed something?). however, you won't get buyer protection, so you are 'buying' something with those fees. up to you whether you need it or not.

A4. Glossary

A4.1 A "Commercial Transaction" payment involves buying and selling goods and services, making any other commercial transaction or receiving payments when you “request money” using PayPal.

A4.2 A "Personal Transaction" payment involves sending money (initiated from the “Friends and Family” tab of the “Send Money” flow) to, and receiving money into your PayPal Account from, friends and family without making an underlying commercial transaction (that is, the payment is not for the purchase of goods or services or for making any other commercial transaction).

If you are making a commercial transaction (for instance selling goods or services), you may not ask the buyer to send you a Personal Transaction payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept any or all payments for Personal Transactions.

[elxsound]

Argument, silliness aside...

I think it just makes sense to choose goods and services for when it applies. It makes sense for buyer/seller protections and also for not getting your account potentially locked out.

Still I guess its a personal choice. I've already seen a few users choose the gift option and have been screwed as a result, so again I personally don't see the value of that option.

I use the gift option frequently for my family, and for that I'm ever so happy there's no fees involved because we''re spread out across the country and it just makes life easier.

[sprnva]

Then Paypal need to add an option for buyers to pay the fees when using goods and services, as they do now with the gift option.

That way buyers won't have to guess how much to add on to ensure the seller isn't left short when the fees are deducted by Paypal.

[elxsound]

Then Paypal need to add an option for buyers to pay the fees when using goods and services, as they do now with the gift option.

That way buyers won't have to guess how much to add on to ensure the seller isn't left short when the fees are deducted by Paypal.

I used to agree with this, but I personally think its the seller that should be the one to set the price that is inclusive of any fees.

If its up to the buyer, then it means the advertised cost of the item is not the actual cost. I don't know about you, but I don't like hidden fees. I like it all upfront.

Whenever I sell something here, I calculate what the fee will be and then take that into consideration for deciding my lowest selling price.

[Fleer]

Then Paypal need to add an option for buyers to pay the fees when using goods and services, as they do now with the gift option.

That way buyers won't have to guess how much to add on to ensure the seller isn't left short when the fees are deducted by Paypal.

I do like this reasoning. More choice is good.

[Numanoid]

Interesting mathematics over at VSTbuzz:

50% off “Titan 2” Synthesiser by Best Service

Real value: €166.99
You save: €77 (46%)

So how does that add up?

[Fleer]

U-he ACE for €13.15 without VAT using BITWIG €50 voucher (promo ends April 5th)

And where would we get that voucher? Or should we first purchase Bitwig?

[sprnva]

You need to have Bitwig. I got it from having the 8-Track edition.

u-he are also giving a $/€50 voucher for Bitwig if you own any of their products.

[Fleer]

Nice, I've got the 8-Track edition.

[JerGoertz]

U-he ACE for €13.15 without VAT using BITWIG €50 voucher (promo ends April 5th)

Link? I tried using the BitWig 50 voucher on U-He's site, but it didn't count it as a valid coupon.