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Spip · Post by **Spip** » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:17 pm

sascha wrote: The idea behind this project is that it actually makes you *want to play* things yourself, since it allows for complete immersion into the action, rather than hear triggered individual samples. ...

It's a great idea to make a plugin to be played in real time, particularly for drummers but... how will you face the problem of latency ? It has to work on a laptop, to be used lived, and not be a CPU hog to be able to lower the buffer at least at 256. 64 would be ideal. Drummers are not keyboardists, they know how to play in time...

In this case, I see 3 source of potential problems : modelling, drums with cymbals and their long decay and... the (awesome) makers of Diva, Zebra etc. (Not exactly what we can call CPU friendly plugins.

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SeeingInMidi · Post by **SeeingInMidi** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:03 am

Damn u-heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:48 am

Spip wrote:
sascha wrote: The idea behind this project is that it actually makes you *want to play* things yourself, since it allows for complete immersion into the action, rather than hear triggered individual samples. ...
It's a great idea to make a plugin to be played in real time, particularly for drummers but... how will you face the problem of latency ? It has to work on a laptop, to be used lived, and not be a CPU hog to be able to lower the buffer at least at 256. 64 would be ideal. Drummers are not keyboardists, they know how to play in time...

In this case, I see 3 source of potential problems : modelling, drums with cymbals and their long decay and... the (awesome) makers of Diva, Zebra etc. (Not exactly what we can call CPU friendly plugins. )

Live does not mean laptops.
Personally i think laptops for musik is stupid considering the fact that musik making is usually CPU intensive task.
The same as rendering movie on laptop is as stupid.

Desctop Workstation computers are made for a reason to accomplish heavy computing tasks.

I think Workstation desktop computers must be used live and in studio for creating music.

Spip · Post by **Spip** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:42 am

chilly7 wrote: Desctop Workstation computers are made for a reason to accomplish heavy computing tasks.

And Laptop computers for travelling...

Beamboom · Post by **Beamboom** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:35 pm

Wasn't there some talk about more info about the drum machine project this week?

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:27 pm

Beamboom wrote:Wasn't there some talk about more info about the drum machine project this week?

Pic or didn't happen.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:42 pm

Beamboom wrote:Wasn't there some talk about more info about the drum machine project this week?

I doubt there is much solid to say... it's far from a realized product and so at this point, things said now could easily change. Plenty of stuff has been talked about in the past that ended up not happening or drastically different.

Beamboom · Post by **Beamboom** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:32 pm

Lejurai wrote:
Beamboom wrote:Wasn't there some talk about more info about the drum machine project this week?
Pic or didn't happen.

Hehe

I did browse back in this thread only to discover I misinterpret a post earlier. So it was just wishful thinking, apparently.

But heck, when it's demoed in public the hype train has surly started, so it can't be that long 'till we hear more!

sascha · Post by **sascha** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:58 pm

At least we can provide our lectures from Superbooth today. We had almost no time to prepare, so please have mercy when it all sounds weird and unstructured... anyway:

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:49 pm

I am very excited about this, as since there are very few modeled drum synths I am sure it is going to be a success. Can't wait do ditch sample libraries form my hard drive-

Obviously if it can also make electronic drums it will be incredible.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:00 am

sascha wrote:At least we can provide our lectures from Superbooth today. We had almost no time to prepare, so please have mercy when it all sounds weird and unstructured...

Those are great perspectives.
What would interest me the most is, if it's possible to take the quintessence of the models' behaviour and combine them with other modules. (and in the best case integrate some modules into zebra).
Cause i think the really interesting part is getting hybrid sounds with properties of the "real" world, and in the same time the possiblity to combine them with maybe unrealistic components.

Think of a drum with 12m diameter with a skin that morphs into a metall plate etc.

Beamboom · Post by **Beamboom** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:54 pm

In light of recent tragic news of Prince's passing, and also staying on the subject of drum machines, I'd like to share this little text in regards to Prince's studio techniques on the Linn Drum;

"Prince invented a production technique for which he has rarely been credited – it’s the tuning of drum machine instruments to the key of the song.

He first used the Linn Drum LM-1 on his album “1999”, which was released October 27, 1982. The LM-1, not to be confused with Roger Linn’s later machines simply called “LinnDrum”, had a potentiometer for each drum-sound that would allow separate tuning of EACH individual drum.

Prince fearlessly tuned hats, rim shots, claps beyond the range in which they sounded anywhere near a real drum recording, but few people realised that while for example tuning a rimshot super low was certainly part of his innovative sound, the real reason behind it was him wanting to hear the entire drum set vibe along the track 100% in tune with the key of the song. That of course gave the drum machine a harmonic role in the arrangement and mix, and is also the solution to the questions how Prince got away with NOT HAVING ANY bass-guitar or bass-synth in the mix of his iconic No.1-hit “When Doves Cry”.

Carefully tuning his Linn LM-1 (using the almost hidden potentiometers on the back of the machine) was something he did on most of the songs using the Linn LM-1, which spans his albums 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign o’ the Times, Lovesexy and also the later released “The Black Album” which he recorded between Sign o’ the Times and Lovesexy. He almost exclusively tuned all drum instruments to the root-note of the song key."

(source: http://www.mixedbymarcmozart.com/2014/1 ... kicks-mix/ )

core · Post by **core** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:56 pm

sascha wrote:At least we can provide our lectures from Superbooth today. We had almost no time to prepare, so please have mercy when it all sounds weird and unstructured... anyway:

Looking forward to what's to come

ulph · Post by **ulph** » Mon May 09, 2016 8:51 pm

sascha wrote:At least we can provide our lectures from Superbooth today.

I quite like the wrong sounding kit. I suppose you'll the knobs to make it weird?

Saukar30 · Post by **Saukar30** » Thu May 26, 2016 5:13 am

Modeled drums.... MMMMM Hip-hop can't wait for this!

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KVR Audio

u-he drum synth please!