SOLVED:T711 Linux kills my vst plugins

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I'm using Tracktion 7.1.1 on Linux . When I previously used T7.1, all of my plugins in the Ultimate pack worked fine, no problems. Now, in T711, I scan for plugins abd get the error message:"Scan Complete. Note that the following files appeared to be plugin files, but failed to load correctly: Master Mix.so, FM Synth.so, BioTek.so, Analog Synth.so " All of those plugins are in /usr/lib/vst.

Now if Tracktion can find the plugins, why can they not load correctly?

BTW-ladspa plugins work fine, no problem.
Last edited by Doug B on Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:09 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Do they scan if you drag and drop the plugin files (the ones ending in .so) directly on to the plugin list?
That should scan them individually.

Also, they the stop working when you updated? You shouldn't have to scan for new plugins after every update, they should have just remained in the list.

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dRowAudio wrote:Do they scan if you drag and drop the plugin files (the ones ending in .so) directly on to the plugin list?
No nothing happens when I d'n d.
Also, they the stop working when you updated?
Yes, that is correct. (BTW, I have the plugins in usr/lib/vst; one of the default paths in Tracktion Linux)

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Are there no Tracktion Linux users that can't unlock their vst's?

Cheers

Doug

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Hi Doug

Im still on 7.1 and, as you said, everything is working fine, so I hesitate to upgrade. (reading posts like yours ;)

However I keep my vst's in /home/myname/.vst
(I only have the minisynths from Tracktion)

I dont know why that would make any difference but it might be worth testing?

Anders
"Ubuntu Studio 16.04 with KXStudio"

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I don't think there should be anything different in unlocking the plugins between Tracktion versions, they should be independent of that. They have their own settings files and authorisation mechanisms.

If you move the plugin files around, the machine ID may change as it's based on the root folder. We'll look in to making that more stable but you shouldn't have to move the plugin files around if you install them to one of the recommended locations.

If you do move them, generate a new key file from the Offline Unlock page on our website. (If you purchased any plugins as part of a bundle we're currently resolving as issue where these products won't show up so email support and we'll send you key files).
The most important thing to sure of is that you report the correct machine ID to us. It must be the one shown in the plugin UI. To be safe, send a screenshot with the request.

If that still doesn't work, try unlocking making sure only one plugin instance is open as there's a chance they may override each others settings files if they're being run in a different process (like BitWig does).

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Storfot wrote:Hi Doug

Im still on 7.1 and, as you said, everything is working fine, so I hesitate to upgrade. (reading posts like yours ;)

However I keep my vst's in /home/myname/.vst
(I only have the minisynths from Tracktion)

I dont know why that would make any difference but it might be worth testing?

Anders
Thanks for replying, Anders. I keep my vst's in /home/myname/.vst just like you do.

As for 7.1, is it possible to still download that one? I may go back to 7.1 and forget about 7.1.1 for now.

Cheers

Doug

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dRowAudio wrote:I don't think there should be anything different in unlocking the plugins between Tracktion versions, they should be independent of that. They have their own settings files and authorisation mechanisms.

If you move the plugin files around, the machine ID may change as it's based on the root folder. We'll look in to making that more stable but you shouldn't have to move the plugin files around if you install them to one of the recommended locations.

If you do move them, generate a new key file from the Offline Unlock page on our website. (If you purchased any plugins as part of a bundle we're currently resolving as issue where these products won't show up so email support and we'll send you key files).
The most important thing to sure of is that you report the correct machine ID to us. It must be the one shown in the plugin UI. To be safe, send a screenshot with the request.

If that still doesn't work, try unlocking making sure only one plugin instance is open as there's a chance they may override each others settings files if they're being run in a different process (like BitWig does).
I have tried all of your suggestions, and Brian emailed keys last week-nothing worked. Should I submit another request?

Doug

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Doug B wrote:I have tried all of your suggestions, and Brian emailed keys last week-nothing worked. Should I submit another request?

Doug
Are you sure the machine ID was correct?

You could try re-installing v7.1, I'd be interested to know if that makes a difference as I can't think why it would. The only thing I can think of is that the plugins have been moved on disk?

Yes, I would send another support request and include screenshots of all the machine IDs.

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dRowAudio wrote: Are you sure the machine ID was correct?
All I know is that the machine ID was the one listed in the ABOUT window at the time.
You could try re-installing v7.1, I'd be interested to know if that makes a difference as I can't think why it would. The only thing I can think of is that the plugins have been moved on disk?
How can I tell which one is 7.1? I see in my downloads that 7.1.1 is marked as such, is 7.1 the other Tracktion Linux listed?
Yes, I would send another support request and include screenshots of all the machine IDs.
Support request sent with screenshot of the about page showing the current machine ID.

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Doug B wrote:All I know is that the machine ID was the one listed in the ABOUT window at the time.
It sounds like you're sending a screen shot of the Tracktion About window, this contains the machine ID to unlock Tracktion, not the plugins (otherwise how would anyone unlock the plugins if using a different host?).

You need to open the plugin UI, click the "Unlock" button (then the "Offline Unlock" button if there is one, it depends on the plugin). There you'll see a machine ID for that specific plugin.
Doug B wrote:How can I tell which one is 7.1? I see in my downloads that 7.1.1 is marked as such, is 7.1 the other Tracktion Linux listed?
No, to the right of the "T7 Installer - Linux 64bit v7.1.1" item in your downloads you'll see an "archives" link.
This contains links to all previous versions.

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dRowAudio wrote:
Doug B wrote:All I know is that the machine ID was the one listed in the ABOUT window at the time.
It sounds like you're sending a screen shot of the Tracktion About window, this contains the machine ID to unlock Tracktion, not the plugins (otherwise how would anyone unlock the plugins if using a different host?).
Sorry, I got confused and thought that that was what you were asking for. However, I am doing the proceedure that you mention here:
You need to open the plugin UI, click the "Unlock" button (then the "Offline Unlock" button if there is one, it depends on the plugin). There you'll see a machine ID for that specific plugin.
No, to the right of the "T7 Installer - Linux 64bit v7.1.1" item in your downloads you'll see an "archives" link.
This contains links to all previous versions.
Thanks, I'll download T7.1 and see how it goes.

Doug

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Thinking that T 7.1.1 might be to blame for my problems, I tried every 7.x archived version of tracktion back to 7.0.23. Problems with the plugins remained the same-either it told me that the vst key was corrupt, or else it told me that the vst was unlocked-but the unlock box still appeared on the synth and the demo sound still sounded. I have also tried using Linux Mint 17.3, Debian Stable, Debian Testing, Ubuntu 14.0.4, and Ubuntu 16. Nothing worked.

At this point, I'm just going to wait until Tracktion gets their act together and fixes the problem.

At this point, I can't use what I paid for and I don't think it would hurt if Tracktion offered me a refund. Just saying.

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I think you're getting confused with how the authorisation process works. Every machine will generate a different machine ID, for each machine ID you need a specifically generated key file. You can't get one key file then try and unlock the plugin on different distros.

If this was possible, there would be nothing to stop users posting key files on the internet letting everyone unlock their software for free!

I just tried the following at it worked flawlessly:
1. Launch my Linux Mint VM that is only a week old. The only thing that I've done is to install T7 and BioTek on it
2. Go to tracktion.com/downloads and downloaded "Master Mix - Linux 64bit - Linux 32bit v1.2.0"
3. Copied the "Master Mix.so" file in to "~/.vst"
4. Opened T7 and scanned for new VST plugins (ensuring "~/.vst" is in the search path
5. Master Mix scans and shows up in the plugin list
6. Add Master Mix to a track. It comes up unlocked.
7. Click on the "Unlock" button and copy the machine ID code (see image below)
8. *** Go to tracktion.com/downloads then click on the "unlock offline" link at the top
9. Enter the product type, machine ID and OS type to generate and download a key file
10. Back in Master Mix press the "..." button to browse for the just downloaded key file
11. Master Mix unlocks, no more hiss and "Unlock" button disappears

*** As previously mentioned if you purchased as part of a bundle the product may not appear on the offline unlock list. We are working to resolve this but in the mean time if you email the "Product Name", "OS Type" and a screenshot of the plugin UI showing the "Machine ID" to support, we'll generate and send you a key file very quickly.

I know this looks like a lot of steps but I've been deliberately verbose to be as clear as possible. It should only take a minute.

We need to be sure this isn't user error before issuing refunds as there are many users who have been able to unlock without issue.
If you move the plugin files, change OSes etc. you are likely to cause the plugins to become locked again.
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Thanks for the list, I'll use iot to install later when I have some time. I will get back to you.

Doug

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