KVR Audio

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Wed May 11, 2016 8:53 pm

KTlin wrote:
Armadillo wrote:Still, $127 at Audiodeluxe is a bit tempting.
Even at $127 I still think this plugin is overpriced for what it offers.
Tantra has pretty much the same features (plus a Glitch module for stutter/reverse effects, plus more effect slots per instance) at almost half that price.
Sequent, at around the same price as Tantra, has a fantastic routing scheme and a powerful looper module.
Or, for $119 you could get Turnado, which has way more effect types than Movement.

Tantra does look pretty neat, it might just be a CamelSpace killer.

It's $90 including VAT though, so not quite the $69 I initially thought, which is a shame.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed May 11, 2016 11:52 pm

Its not uncommon that devs send NFR copies to be reviewed.

Numanoid wrote:Without a demo, how would it be possible for MusicTech to say on release day that:

“Output’s first foray into the plug-in world demonstrates the same creative spark as their innovative instruments. It surprised and delighted us”

I do not hope Output think those kind of endorsements can moonlight for a proper demo, that users can try out for themselves

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Thu May 12, 2016 12:26 am

The only thing that really caught my attention is the sidechain input as a modulation source, which doesn't seem that common in multi-fx plugins.

nordickvr · Post by **nordickvr** » Thu May 12, 2016 12:44 am

Not like having a demo v. but, they're having a refund policy :

DON’T LOVE IT? RETURN IT.
14 day guarantee on all full products and bundles.
If you are unhappy for any reason after installing, registering and using the product, we will issue a full refund within 14 days of your purchase. Individual expansion packs excluded

crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:52 am

The more I see this and the Zynaptiq stuffs, the more I want an X - Y pad implementation in Mxxx.

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:53 am

If you have Komplete than Molekular (developed with Zynaptiq) is much more powerful than Movement:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9gb8usFmeuo

Sound Author · Post by **Sound Author** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:14 pm

Did this go through a beta phase? Seems a little buggy for an official v1.0. CPU flies off the rails in Ableton for some reason (with Asio4All that is) well beyond 100%. The CPU load in FL Studio is okay, but I froze up a few times and had to give it the ole' three-finger-salute. The mouse cursor often disappears. Panning modulation causes distortion. Cool plugin. Needs some bugfixes.

loungepanda · Post by **loungepanda** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:33 pm

Poor form. No wonder there's no demo then.

Sound Author · Post by **Sound Author** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:42 pm

loungepanda wrote:Poor form. No wonder there's no demo then.

Well, don't get me wrong, it's a very cool plugin with lots on offer. I won't discourage anyone from purchasing it. Perhaps the Mac version is seamless, but for me, the Windows version is a little rough around the edges. I like it very much, but I feel the Windows version needs some work. It needs an update for sure.

Sequent · Post by **Sequent** » Thu May 12, 2016 8:16 pm

Hm, I was thinking about the 'lame' crossgrade price for Output customers... and actually it's a good thing. It's good because there is less temptation to jump on it because of the intro price. It means that I can take my time to explore my options, possibly find something that works better for me, and wait until there is more feedback from existing users.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Thu May 12, 2016 8:27 pm

Sound Author wrote:Did this go through a beta phase? Seems a little buggy for an official v1.0. CPU flies off the rails in Ableton for some reason (with Asio4All that is) well beyond 100%. The CPU load in FL Studio is okay, but I froze up a few times and had to give it the ole' three-finger-salute. The mouse cursor often disappears. Panning modulation causes distortion. Cool plugin. Needs some bugfixes.

I have an issue with it not being able to automate the plugin bypass in Cubase, very odd. Otherwise it does sound great.

Sound Author · Post by **Sound Author** » Fri May 13, 2016 1:51 am

woodsdenis wrote:
Sound Author wrote:Did this go through a beta phase? Seems a little buggy for an official v1.0. CPU flies off the rails in Ableton for some reason (with Asio4All that is) well beyond 100%. The CPU load in FL Studio is okay, but I froze up a few times and had to give it the ole' three-finger-salute. The mouse cursor often disappears. Panning modulation causes distortion. Cool plugin. Needs some bugfixes.
I have an issue with it not being able to automate the plugin bypass in Cubase, very odd. Otherwise it does sound great.

Yeah, I'm playing with it now and it does some wonderful things to drum hits. A kick drum becomes a splashy mess with the "290. Wet N Metal" preset. I'm also running a fat snare through "266. Raindrops". I really like these sounds. All criticism aside, you can create some wonderful ear candy with Movement

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:12 am

Sound Author wrote:
woodsdenis wrote:
Sound Author wrote:Did this go through a beta phase? Seems a little buggy for an official v1.0. CPU flies off the rails in Ableton for some reason (with Asio4All that is) well beyond 100%. The CPU load in FL Studio is okay, but I froze up a few times and had to give it the ole' three-finger-salute. The mouse cursor often disappears. Panning modulation causes distortion. Cool plugin. Needs some bugfixes.
I have an issue with it not being able to automate the plugin bypass in Cubase, very odd. Otherwise it does sound great.
Yeah, I'm playing with it now and it does some wonderful things to drum hits. A kick drum becomes a splashy mess with the "290. Wet N Metal" preset. I'm also running a fat snare through "266. Raindrops". I really like these sounds. All criticism aside, you can create some wonderful ear candy with Movement

Must start trying that out ! Support are very good and quick to respond, certainly on my issue.

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:42 am

nordickvr wrote:Not like having a demo v. but, they're having a refund policy :

DON’T LOVE IT? RETURN IT.
14 day guarantee on all full products and bundles.
If you are unhappy for any reason after installing, registering and using the product, we will issue a full refund within 14 days of your purchase. Individual expansion packs excluded

Indeed.

Typical KVR - 3 pages in with various moaning about lack of a demo, and just a quick read of the developer's webpage will show this policy.

To all extents and purposes that is a demo.

As for the product, well I don't really need it and probably won't buy it. It will be good to have some feedback from people who've bought and used it though.
Exhale on the other hand looks very interesting.

KTlin · Post by **KTlin** » Fri May 13, 2016 11:01 am

Doug1978 wrote:Typical KVR - 3 pages in with various moaning about lack of a demo, and just a quick read of the developer's webpage will show this policy.
To all extents and purposes that is a demo.

Are you for real? That can hardly be considered a demo.

Output Movement: Rhythm FX