KVR Audio

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:36 pm

trusampler wrote:Run both versions until the issue is sorted? At least they bothered to create a converter. I too want the new gui with my older patches, but at least we can run both.

Yep, both runs fine side by side.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat May 21, 2016 9:52 pm

exmatproton wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:My initial thoughts:

A. The installer and download process are horrible. The installer should let users specify a location, and the downloads have no excuse for being this slow in this day and age. At least for a company of Arturia's size. Amazon's web hosting service will scale up or down as needed, which is something Arturia should have looked into.
What plugins are you referring to? I was able to put the vst's where i wanted them to be (the vst2, x64 ones, the rest i don't need)

It wasn't clear to me how to do that. When I ran the installer it told me where they were going but either didn't allow me to change the location, or how to do so wasn't obvious. The only customization options I had were which plugins to install. Having read through this thread a few other folks ran into this too. Either way, that's the least of my gripes.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:54 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:It wasn't clear to me how to do that. When I ran the installer it told me where they were going but either didn't allow me to change the location, or how to do so wasn't obvious.

What kind of OS are you on?

In Windows 10, I have no problem to change the folder to put the VST

What is annoying is that the installer install up to four duplicate files of the dll in the ProgramData folder

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:58 pm

FYI on the mac, the complete package of installers is 6.5GB.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:01 pm

plexuss wrote:FYI on the mac, the complete package of installers is 6.5GB.

A really big part of it is the high resolution pictures for the different sizes of the GUIs.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:02 pm

Here is a quick and dirty video I put together comparing the Mini from 4 to 5.

There are 3 sections to the video: 1. similar settings, 2. similar sound, 3. with drums for context.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:04 pm

fmr wrote:
plexuss wrote:FYI on the mac, the complete package of installers is 6.5GB.
A really big part of it is the high resolution pictures for the different sizes of the GUIs.

Wouldn't it be better to use vector graphics?

To compare, u-he plugs have several settings for gui size, without the installer file becoming humongus

Boardwalk · Post by **Boardwalk** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:06 pm

Wow. What makes the package so large?

Edit: comment crossed; thanks fmr!

beely · Post by **beely** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:07 pm

Numanoid wrote:Wouldn't it be better to use vector graphics?

*Better* in some ways (eg storage space) but it's much harder and more resource intensive to do intricate gui's if you are rendering on the fly - most vector gui's are flat and simple to draw because of this.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:09 pm

plexuss wrote:Here is a quick and dirty video I put together comparing the Mini from 4 to 5.

There are 3 sections to the video: 1. similar settings, 2. similar sound, 3. with drums for context.

The new interface isn't updating all the time...the key presses are missed.
I have no idea what is what. I find one is more quiet compared to the other. So it is difficult to compare them

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:09 pm

beely wrote:most vector gui's are flat and simple to draw because of this.

Analog Lab v2 gui compared to v1 is just that

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:13 pm

Numanoid wrote:
fmr wrote:
plexuss wrote:FYI on the mac, the complete package of installers is 6.5GB.
A really big part of it is the high resolution pictures for the different sizes of the GUIs.
Wouldn't it be better to use vector graphics?

To compare, u-he plugs have several settings for gui size, without the installer file becoming humongus

To mimick the vintage synths, vector graphics would be impossible - you really need photographic panels. And they look much better than U-He synths (IMO)

Totally different style GUIs. Usually, vector GUIs are flat, boring and ugly.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:24 pm

exmatproton wrote:
plexuss wrote:Here is a quick and dirty video I put together comparing the Mini from 4 to 5.

There are 3 sections to the video: 1. similar settings, 2. similar sound, 3. with drums for context.

The new interface isn't updating all the time...the key presses are missed.
I have no idea what is what. I find one is more quiet compared to the other. So it is difficult to compare them

I matched the peak levels between them but not the measured loudness. should be close enough to draw a comparison.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:29 pm

plexuss wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
plexuss wrote:Here is a quick and dirty video I put together comparing the Mini from 4 to 5.

There are 3 sections to the video: 1. similar settings, 2. similar sound, 3. with drums for context.

The new interface isn't updating all the time...the key presses are missed.
I have no idea what is what. I find one is more quiet compared to the other. So it is difficult to compare them
I matched the peak levels between them but not the measured loudness. should be close enough to draw a comparison.

In that case they are different for sure. Don't know which one i like more. Some further testing with high resonance and pulses would result in a defenitive answer.

What is your opinion? Which one do you prefer?

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:31 pm

fmr wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
fmr wrote:
plexuss wrote:FYI on the mac, the complete package of installers is 6.5GB.
A really big part of it is the high resolution pictures for the different sizes of the GUIs.
Wouldn't it be better to use vector graphics?

To compare, u-he plugs have several settings for gui size, without the installer file becoming humongus
To mimick the vintage synths, vector graphics would be impossible - you really need photographic panels. And they look much better than U-He synths (IMO) Totally different style GUIs. Usually, vector GUIs are flat, boring and ugly.

Well, i like presswerk, satin and repro (the newer ones...) over these new arturia skins. They scale better, have good zoom level and all the text is just good visible. In contrast to arturia's.

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