Kraftwerk lose sampling copyright case.
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- KVRian
- 1439 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from velvet noise
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It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?
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- KVRian
- 1439 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from velvet noise
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It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
What an astoundingly forward thinking, even handed, real-world-based ruling.
I am kind of surprised. The legal precedent will cause chaos. Eh, maybe not. Other articles are directly addressing that as being not likely... They must not have enough US lawyers over there...
I am kind of surprised. The legal precedent will cause chaos. Eh, maybe not. Other articles are directly addressing that as being not likely... They must not have enough US lawyers over there...
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- KVRAF
- 44126 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Yes. There was panic on the streets tonight. It's a real game changer.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Did you sample all the things?
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- KVRAF
- 6179 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
Not much interest in this particular example of plagiarism but weren't hip-crap producers such as JZ once known for creating and selling 'beats' ?
I don't exactly know what that means, but it seems to me 'the beat' was 'the' most fundamental part of hip-crap (besides the spiel itself) . Considering this idea, it seems to me Hutter may have a point.
I don't exactly know what that means, but it seems to me 'the beat' was 'the' most fundamental part of hip-crap (besides the spiel itself) . Considering this idea, it seems to me Hutter may have a point.
....................Don`t blame me for 'The Roots', I just live here. 
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- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
You disqualified yourself anyway to tell others they are disrespectful or even better what is "true" so it doesn't' matter.resistent wrote:Again disrespectfulmurnau wrote:Yep, exactly. That is what this court members should do.resistent wrote:That not true and disrespectful. Go and dig some keynote arbitrations ...murnau wrote:This court is a bunch of idiots
It doesn't matter anyway but in your case especially.
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.
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- KVRAF
- 1987 posts since 29 Apr, 2010 from NYC
im just going to put here what i wrote on facebook about this yesterday:
come on kraftwerk...what are you going to do...sue every hip hop and freestyle band ever?
we all know those genres are entirely based on kraftwerk samples. especially freestyle, which unlike hip hop never moved on to more original stuff. kraftwerk was ripped off more than the amen break...it never hurt them. get over it already...its been almost 40 years.
just take the compliment.
to which my buddy responded:
they made money off a tour of robots playing their music, didnt they? Fates been kind enough
yes...fate has been kind enough i think.
come on kraftwerk...what are you going to do...sue every hip hop and freestyle band ever?
we all know those genres are entirely based on kraftwerk samples. especially freestyle, which unlike hip hop never moved on to more original stuff. kraftwerk was ripped off more than the amen break...it never hurt them. get over it already...its been almost 40 years.
just take the compliment.
to which my buddy responded:
they made money off a tour of robots playing their music, didnt they? Fates been kind enough
yes...fate has been kind enough i think.
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034 - KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
It absolutely is. Without it culture and innovation would slow down massively. I've heard samples of my music a number of times. It's just gives me a wry smile and a warm fuzzy feeling to be part of the big picturet3toooo wrote:...and argue that stealing is a form of culture?
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- KVRAF
- 1671 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation
More complications: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1170-just ... t-have-to/
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- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 2238 posts since 19 Dec, 2014
skipscada wrote:More complications: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1170-just ... t-have-to/
interesting... but i don't particularly agree with the pitchfork author's assertion that it's bieber/skrillex getting the raw end of the deal ... if all she wanted as a writing credit, they probably should have taken that opportunity before it became some court-case/settlement issue.
just listen to the original and the skrillex produced bieber tune ... skrillex was at best, very heavily 'inspired'.. inspired enough to give a writing credit to her, imo. if it goes before a jury they (skrillex/bieber) will lose, for absolute sure - no amount of 'oh, but the pitch of the last note is different' will convince a jury of lay people that skrillex didn't just take the idea from dienel.
whether skrillex, or musicians in general, should be allowed to do this is not what I'm commenting on - but to me it's pretty clear that skrillex copied dienels... and perhaps maddeningly for dienels, did a better job with it.
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
You dont get to say that anymore, 'incubus'.