Hi.
I heard about diva two weeks ago, when I tried the demo, it sounded so good, I could not resist.
Unfortunately, I am blind, and use my computer with a screen reader. It would be a very hard job for a small company such as U-HE to make their synthesisers screenreader friendly.
An alternative would be to find a physical control surface to manipulate their parameters. Is there something on the market that looks more like a synthesiser front panel than like a mixing console, that would have enough sliders, pots and switches, and maybe a page system to multiply all these, so that all parameters could be handled?
Looking for your advice.
Best regards,
JPR
Looking for a control surface to manipulate diva
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 2 Mar, 2016 from Paris France
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- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 13 Mar, 2008 from Arnhem, Netherlands
That's certainly a challenge!
I'm getting by controlling Diva with a Novation REmote SL fine.
There's also a model without keys. The REmote Zero SL.
I'm getting by controlling Diva with a Novation REmote SL fine.
There's also a model without keys. The REmote Zero SL.
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- KVRist
- 228 posts since 26 Sep, 2013
unfortunately there is no single controller dedicated for the task. One solution would be to ask a friend to build a custom controller (Midibox, Doepfer, etc.), but considering the time and cost it takes, it's probably better to get one of those analogue synths that appeared recently.
Another option would be to get a MIDI controller that is on the market, like the Behringer BCR2000, or the Doepfer Drehbank. The disadvantage is that their knobs are equally arranged, which is a bit difficult to know which knob controls which parameter.
But if you have a MIDI keyboard already, an expression pedal is very useful. Most keyboards have expression and sustain pedal inputs. These two pedals, the Mod- and Pitchwheel, and maybe an additional knob controller, provide good control over the sound. And there are also breath controllers.
http://www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-mi ... controller
Another option would be to get a MIDI controller that is on the market, like the Behringer BCR2000, or the Doepfer Drehbank. The disadvantage is that their knobs are equally arranged, which is a bit difficult to know which knob controls which parameter.
But if you have a MIDI keyboard already, an expression pedal is very useful. Most keyboards have expression and sustain pedal inputs. These two pedals, the Mod- and Pitchwheel, and maybe an additional knob controller, provide good control over the sound. And there are also breath controllers.
http://www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-mi ... controller
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Knobs could be replaced... use 3 or 4 different types?Phil999 wrote:The disadvantage is that their knobs are equally arranged, which is a bit difficult to know which knob controls which parameter.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 135 posts since 2 Mar, 2016 from Paris France
Thanks evilantal.
I do have one of these, but the learning procedure requires help from a sighted person. Are you using Automap or standard MIDI controllers?
Best,
JPR
"quote="evilantal"]That's certainly a challenge!
I'm getting by controlling Diva with a Novation REmote SL fine.
There's also a model without keys. The REmote Zero SL.[/quote]
I do have one of these, but the learning procedure requires help from a sighted person. Are you using Automap or standard MIDI controllers?
Best,
JPR
"quote="evilantal"]That's certainly a challenge!
I'm getting by controlling Diva with a Novation REmote SL fine.
There's also a model without keys. The REmote Zero SL.[/quote]
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- KVRAF
- 2315 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Some D.A.W.'s allow alternative viewing of the VST instruments where it lists each of the parameters as, well, a list rather than a traditional G.U.I. (I know Jeskola Buzz, Reaper & Ableton does). So maybe that'd be an alternative way of accessing Diva using a screen reading tool ?
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- KVRist
- 77 posts since 4 Jan, 2007 from Germany
As mentioned earlier in this thread, a dedicated custom controller might help, however, it also involves a lot of time and money, unfortunately.
There is a guy in Germany who build a dedicated controller just for his own pleasure. Likewise he did for many more soft-synths. He is not selling them, but he might be a contact for you if you plan to elaborate this route a bit more.
check out this link here: http://www.synth-project.de/diva.html
There is a guy in Germany who build a dedicated controller just for his own pleasure. Likewise he did for many more soft-synths. He is not selling them, but he might be a contact for you if you plan to elaborate this route a bit more.
check out this link here: http://www.synth-project.de/diva.html
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- KVRAF
- 4077 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
You can use a hardware synth for this, something with a lot of controls. Diva has MIDI learn so even if the Synth controls can't be edited you can assigned them in DIVA easily.
The current cheapest synth with the biggest number of controls is the Roland System 1, or system 1m, the layout is very classic and you will be able to map a lot. it has 43 controls and about 6 buttons.
But DIVA oscilators are problematic to map, specially the Double VCO and the DCO which use a lot of buttons for selecting waveforms but the rest of the synth can be mapped easily.
The current cheapest synth with the biggest number of controls is the Roland System 1, or system 1m, the layout is very classic and you will be able to map a lot. it has 43 controls and about 6 buttons.
But DIVA oscilators are problematic to map, specially the Double VCO and the DCO which use a lot of buttons for selecting waveforms but the rest of the synth can be mapped easily.
dedication to flying
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 135 posts since 2 Mar, 2016 from Paris France
Hi Rod-Zero,
Do you mean you can't use one knob to go through all waveforms?
About the Roland, 43 controls seems good, but do you have multiple pages? If not, the novation SLMK seems to be a better idea.
It has eight sliders, 16 knobs, a lot of switches, and you can have as many pages as you want. The problem I have with that device, is its mixing console layout, but I think I can deal with that.
Thanks,
JPR
Do you mean you can't use one knob to go through all waveforms?
About the Roland, 43 controls seems good, but do you have multiple pages? If not, the novation SLMK seems to be a better idea.
It has eight sliders, 16 knobs, a lot of switches, and you can have as many pages as you want. The problem I have with that device, is its mixing console layout, but I think I can deal with that.
Thanks,
JPR
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 22 Jan, 2016 from Ukraine
Hello Jprykiel
I wrote to Urs to make the Hive parameters convenient for the blind, my message is ignored.
Diva modular synth, and I think it is impossible to make available.
I wrote to Urs to make the Hive parameters convenient for the blind, my message is ignored.
Diva modular synth, and I think it is impossible to make available.
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- KVRAF
- 4077 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
jprykiel wrote:Hi Rod-Zero,
Do you mean you can't use one knob to go through all waveforms?
Exactly, because selecting waveforms is done by turning on/off buttons.
As for The SL Mk2 vs the Roland System 1.
The SL Mk2 is a controller so it has pages and other very usefull features but it also has a very generic layout wich makes it unatural for controlling synths, at least to me.
At some point navigating through pages also gets confusing and you forget in what page is that parameter you want to tweak now.
dedication to flying
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- KVRian
- 929 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
Sorry to bump this 6yo thread, but I just stumbled upon this 10yo video of Urs showing off this dedicated Diva controller that was "a bit of fun for the trade show". But, yeah, I'd love a dedicated Diva controller.