KVR Audio

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:30 am

Taron wrote:Forgive me for suggestion/asking, but If you just check for the mouse triggers (and window messages?) to update the graphics at change of values, just how it ordinarily works...wouldn't that do the trick and you could skip constant updating?
I'm using vstgui4.0 and rely on it's update logic, which appears to be quite solid and "calm".

The issue here is the animations. Waveforms and also Knob animations. If I only react on user interaction, those won't work

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:37 am

Ugh... are you redrawing the whole interface then or just the respective elements? And also... pfff, man, that is the least of its needs, if you asked me. Maybe make a toggle to animate or not for those, who have troubles with it!

(by the way, I'm using MULab and have no issues with it as far as I can tell!)

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:49 am

Juce is deciding on what to redraw in this case. It's the Framework I use. Of course it should only redraw on change. And also only when the window is open, otherwise it will not render. I checked that already

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:31 am

Okay, here's a new build. I now also switched of animation of the waveform. That should save some cpu cycles.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... efish4.dll
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... efish4.dll

I will now also put in an option to switch off animations alltogether if those are using too much CPU

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:58 am

Very cool, thanks!

...as grateful as I am about frameworks, isn't it always a pain, having to dig deep into its trenches to see what's really going on?! Despite the documentation of vstgui, for example, I literally had to trace every other method through to its very root to know what's going on and what to do.

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:01 am

Luckily I did not have to dig all too much into Juce. But the very very nice thing about it that I do not like to miss is the fact, that I do not have to deal with VST or Audio Unit interfaces at all. VST was never a big issue, but AU seems so much more complicated. With Juce I just implement their Audio interface which is simple and well documented and it keeps the rest of the complexity away from me

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:19 am

Okay, here's another new build. Switched off OpenGL again since it might just cause more issues. If anybody has considerably better performance with the beta2 build, let me know. For me it makes no difference.
I now added 3 configuration buttons on the bottom of the UI. The first lets you decide if you want to have animations at all. Then if you do, you can choose the framerate between 10fps and 25fps and you can also choose if you want the moving waveforms or not.
Hope that will solve this CPU issue now

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... efish4.dll
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... efish4.dll

rghvdberg · Post by **rghvdberg** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:26 pm

Latest build 4.1.0 beta 3 (from github) is AWESOME!
As long as I switch of the animations buttons

Planning on making some prog-rock this month

where's the headbanging metalhead emoji ??

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:33 pm

rghvdberg wrote:Latest build 4.1.0 beta 3 (from github) is AWESOME!
As long as I switch of the animations buttons

Planning on making some prog-rock this month

where's the headbanging metalhead emoji ??

That new version from github would actually be beta4. Just relabled it

And thanks for testing rghvdberg!
Here's the new build:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... efish4.dll
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... efish4.dll

Also mac builds this time for VST/AU:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... ponent.zip
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... h4.vst.zip

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:59 pm

payne_bc wrote:
liqih wrote:
Have you tried a build with startTimer (50); removed
from Tunefish4AudioProcessorEditor()
?

That was the change on Windows for avoiding GUI CPU load. From 70% to 2% here.
That change will make the UI stop updating completely. Don't do it, it breaks way more than it fixes. I will look into the CPU issues today and I also grabbed copies of FL Studio and Live 9 to see how it behaves with those.

EDIT: Ah I see I was too late Never mind

Hi Payne,

Yeah, I realized that issue some minutes later.
Your latest builds needs at least Windows 7 right?
For DAWs I still use a dedicated Windows XP machine,
therefore I have to use my 32-bit build with startTimer (400);
very slow animations but works fine, at least in EnergyXT.
But Live 9 crashes as soon as I open the editor, both with
my build and yours from 5/5/2014.

Running with debugger, when I open the editor
it always throws an exception EAccessViolation
as soon as the code reaches this call in Tunefish4AudioProcessorEditor():
m_freqView.setSynth(ownerFilter, synth, synth->instr[0]);

Anyway I can at least use it in EnergyXT.
So many thanks for the great synth,<grin>

Cheers

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:12 pm

here is my VST 32-bit DLL of Tunefish4 compatible with Windows XP,
http://nusofting.liqihsynth.com/zip/tun ... ows_XP.zip
if anyone needs it, rare case I guess <wink>

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:14 pm

liqih wrote:here is my VST 32-bit DLL of Tunefish4 compatible with Windows XP,
http://nusofting.liqihsynth.com/zip/tun ... ows_XP.zip
if anyone needs it, rare case I guess <wink>

How did you build it?

Might be good to add to the README.md

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:29 pm

payne_bc wrote:
liqih wrote:here is my VST 32-bit DLL of Tunefish4 compatible with Windows XP,
http://nusofting.liqihsynth.com/zip/tun ... ows_XP.zip
if anyone needs it, rare case I guess <wink>
How did you build it? Might be good to add to the README.md

Ah, sorry, I used VC++ 2008, compiler 15.0.30729.1
Microsoft SDKs v6.1.

Do I need to upload the source modifications
and the tunefish4.vcproj too?

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:31 pm

Ah, so just an older compiler... I see

rghvdberg · Post by **rghvdberg** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:38 pm

I just type 'make'

yay linux

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