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I'm also really happy with Aether, having used it for years.
I would like to request some "Placement" presets as I didn't really find any. I mean for placing an instrument further back in the mix or taking a mix slightly less upfront using Early Reflections and without any reverb tail. I did make a few presets myself but I'm no audio expert and I think it's easy to mess things up if one is not careful. Do I make sense or have I missed something?

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I really wish there was a resolution setting in that sits in between the normal Berlin and Berlin HD.

On my 1920x1080 screen the regular size is just a bit too small and the HD is friggin' huge :help:

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Soarer wrote:I'm also really happy with Aether, having used it for years.
I would like to request some "Placement" presets as I didn't really find any. I mean for placing an instrument further back in the mix or taking a mix slightly less upfront using Early Reflections and without any reverb tail. I did make a few presets myself but I'm no audio expert and I think it's easy to mess things up if one is not careful. Do I make sense or have I missed something?

There are some in this set that were designed for such use.
Nice expansion that adds something new to Aether.

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Soarer wrote:I'm also really happy with Aether, having used it for years.
I would like to request some "Placement" presets as I didn't really find any. I mean for placing an instrument further back in the mix or taking a mix slightly less upfront using Early Reflections and without any reverb tail. I did make a few presets myself but I'm no audio expert and I think it's easy to mess things up if one is not careful. Do I make sense or have I missed something?


Hi
For how many people placement you need?


First you need to choose how big orchestra will be.
Second, choose one Hall that you like just for ER.
Aether respects the position of the source, so you can pan your source channels respectfully.
There is depth parameter in ER section (left) and that is how long ER would be, for the first row will be the same settings.
ER Position parameters the same settings for the first row.
For the second row you can adjust depth a bit more.

It all depends how the geometry of the orchestra in space will be.
Those in the middle position could be more back while those on the sides more to front, but just slightly more depth I think.



From the manual:

ER Position
The ER Position control is measured in percent (%) and can set different positions of virtual sound source and recording points in an acoustic space. This is equivalent to changing the location of the performer and/or the listener in a given performance space. It allows you to adjust early reflection patterns without changing the physical properties of the acoustic space.
Studies have shown that impulse responses of real acoustic spaces vary drastically, even chaotically, in some of their characteristics in response to small changes in source and listener position. Most impulse-response-based approaches are limited to capturing a single location of an acoustic space, and do not capture the dynamic potential of the full environment. Consider a classical engineer who carefully sets up microphone placement for the given performance, performs a few listening tests via headphones, and then readjusts the microphone placement to find the optimum "sweet spot" for the given combination of musical material and room. This is effectively what Aether's Position control allows. We recommend establishing the physical ER parameters such as Size and Shape first, and then adjusting the Position control until you find a reflection pattern that is best suited for the context of your current musical need.


TIP: One powerful thing to do with Aether is to turn OFF the LR engine and insert an instance on each audio track you are working with. Then insert a final instance on a Send/Aux/Bus and only use the LR engine. This will not use a lot of CPU power because bypassed sections do not process on the CPU, and the ER engine itself is not particularly heavy on the CPU. If you do things this way, you can select a desired space type--maybe one of the Halls for symphonic material-- and use the same ER settings for all audio tracks, EXCEPT, change Position for each. Since all tracks share identical physical ER model settings and the same diffuse LR Engine, all tracks feel like they are in the same room, but with each coming from a slightly different location within this room.

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LFO8 wrote:I really wish there was a resolution setting in that sits in between the normal Berlin and Berlin HD.

On my 1920x1080 screen the regular size is just a bit too small and the HD is friggin' huge :help:
I asked for the exact same thing on page 38. See Galbanum's answer there.

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e@rs wrote:
LFO8 wrote:I really wish there was a resolution setting in that sits in between the normal Berlin and Berlin HD.

On my 1920x1080 screen the regular size is just a bit too small and the HD is friggin' huge :help:
I asked for the exact same thing on page 38. See Galbanum's answer there.
Ah, sorry, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out to me. Must say, I am disappointed by their answer :scared:

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Yes , indeed original size is really small for reading the numbers.
I tried to make ideal size of HD png's, and the best size for me could be 40% less in size.

Like this:




Merciful Andrew, show us some bless :pray: :pray: :pray: :D
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One example more with preset for Aether: Big Pad Hall.

https://soundcloud.com/user-763827162/a ... g-pad-hall
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One important info. If you use cascade for serial ER to LR you need to close down ER gain knob, or you will have some nasty low mid's since ER is applied twice, serial and parallel.

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Martin Gore chose Aether (plus B2) as one of his 5 favorite pieces of software in Computer Music 239. :tu:
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I love the smell of Aether in the morning:

https://soundcloud.com/synth-presets-co ... pace-demos

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e@rs wrote:Martin Gore chose Aether (plus B2) as one of his 5 favorite pieces of software in Computer Music 239. :tu:
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Hey! That's cool! Thanks for pointing that out! I've known he was a customer for quite some time and I tried to contact him once or twice for an interview but was not successful. I should try again!

We have lots of amazing artists/legends like this. It's generally not kosher to "out" them unless they explicitly OK it though, so sadly, I usually can't talk about it. But if they say so publicly like this, that's awesome, and then we can talk about it. :tu: :clap:

We've got some really great stuff cooking for 2017!

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Been using Aether for years as well, excellent reverb. Over the years I've also collected loads of patches. I tend to come back to the same handful that I always tweak, but what I'd really like is some sort of very small definitive set. Even after years I'm not certain my reverb programming is getting the best result. I think it's comparitively very easy to program synths - the result is obvious. But with reverbs the art seems far more arcane.

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Galbanum wrote:We've got some really great stuff cooking for 2017!
Sweet! Just remember that for many (myself included) CPU usage is a really important feature too. :wink:

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Richard deHove wrote:Been using Aether for years as well, excellent reverb. Over the years I've also collected loads of patches. I tend to come back to the same handful that I always tweak, but what I'd really like is some sort of very small definitive set. Even after years I'm not certain my reverb programming is getting the best result. I think it's comparitively very easy to program synths - the result is obvious. But with reverbs the art seems far more arcane.
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