U-he's Zebra tutorials are useful... but
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 2 Feb, 2015
Are there any other tutorials that I can use to help understand "how to make these sounds"?
Nowadays there are too many wavetable synth tutorials (thanks to Serum and Massive) that are not quite capable of replicating them in Zebra.
I want to learn how to make lot of trance-edm like sounds, as well as house synths. Mostly anything other than dubstep like sound.
Any advice or links will be helpful.
Thanks!
Nowadays there are too many wavetable synth tutorials (thanks to Serum and Massive) that are not quite capable of replicating them in Zebra.
I want to learn how to make lot of trance-edm like sounds, as well as house synths. Mostly anything other than dubstep like sound.
Any advice or links will be helpful.
Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
It's not something specific to the Zebra, or generally u-he tutorials, but i think there is a serious lack of "how to do that sound" tutorials. Not sure why that is, i never really got it. As someone who starts out messing with synths, you want to (quickly) know how to make this or that sound specifically. I never really dissected patches much (many ways lead to Rome anyway), so i stumbled on most things i learned about synthesis over the years rather by accident, which of course is also a way of learning it, but takes so much longer, and also is a bit random at times. I actually thought about doing some "how to do that sound" Youtube tutorials, although i'm really not very experience in making sound compared to others, just because it's something which i feel is seriously lacking. There are literally thousands of tuts which cover the basics of subtractive synthesis, or how the different synths work, but only very few sound tutorials. Sadly, because even on this forum people often asked how to make this or that sound, even if they're pretty basic.
- KVRAF
- 18471 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
One thing I find helpful at times is to try to replicate a patch on one synth with another. It kind of forces you to explore the capabilities of both synths. Find a patch that you like in Massive (or whatever) and start to put that thing together in Zebra. Of course, Zebra eclipses Serum and Massive in some ways, but falls short in others.
Zebra, to me, is an excellent but largely untapped resource. I like to find a preset patch (there are tons of great ones) and explore messing with it, but I don't find it that fun to patch up. Part of that stems from the UI lacking visual cues as to how modulators are connected or how they can even be connected. Even though I know it now, I tend to go to other synths for stuff, even though I know what I'm looking for is well within Zebra's wheelhouse.
I recently sold ACE and Diva with part of my reasoning that I'm already using a DSP based modular for things that ACE is good for and actual analogs for what Diva is good for and it'll force me to dig into Zebra/HZ deeper and become more intimate with it.
Zebra, to me, is an excellent but largely untapped resource. I like to find a preset patch (there are tons of great ones) and explore messing with it, but I don't find it that fun to patch up. Part of that stems from the UI lacking visual cues as to how modulators are connected or how they can even be connected. Even though I know it now, I tend to go to other synths for stuff, even though I know what I'm looking for is well within Zebra's wheelhouse.
I recently sold ACE and Diva with part of my reasoning that I'm already using a DSP based modular for things that ACE is good for and actual analogs for what Diva is good for and it'll force me to dig into Zebra/HZ deeper and become more intimate with it.
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- KVRAF
- 1783 posts since 11 Jun, 2005 from Phoenix, Arizona
I strongly agree with this. Also, nothing can replace those "Aha!" moments you get when you discover it yourself. With all that said...zerocrossing wrote:One thing I find helpful at times is to try to replicate a patch on one synth with another. It kind of forces you to explore the capabilities of both synths.
I like the stuff Rolf is covering in the Bazille videos. http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=449861 Check all of them if you have time.
And I think Nick's tutorials covering Sampler and Operator in Live are really good. The vast majority of the stuff he covers transfers well, imho.
http://nickstutorials.com/
Both of these back into sound design in different ways. As always, ymmv...
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- KVRAF
- 3390 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
Computer Music magazine usually has several step by step preset making tutorials in every issue. They're not necessarily videos but they can still be helpful.
They use lots of different synths and not just u-he though.
They use lots of different synths and not just u-he though.
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- KVRist
- 67 posts since 17 Oct, 2012
ADSR Sounds had a series of free tutorials as well as a few paid courses that explored Zebra for building specific sounds. The presenter also experiments a lot in videos and gives a good idea on how each parameter affects the final sound. Those videos have certain presentation style that may not work for everyone so check the free/sample videos from the series first.
The majority of other videos ether just describe the controls in general or give very precise recipes with numbers for each control without much explanation. In the end, one is left to take an existing patch, dissect it, and experiment. General subtractive, additive, and FM synthesis courses are very good to build a foundation before you start experimenting with Zebra.
The majority of other videos ether just describe the controls in general or give very precise recipes with numbers for each control without much explanation. In the end, one is left to take an existing patch, dissect it, and experiment. General subtractive, additive, and FM synthesis courses are very good to build a foundation before you start experimenting with Zebra.
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- KVRist
- 122 posts since 30 Sep, 2013 from Czech Republic
Well, reading these posts I thought it might be a good idea to start a series of Zebra-patch analysis. The first part is online now. Please tell me, if it is something like that, you are looking for:
Have a great day and a good time!
Rolf
Have a great day and a good time!
Rolf
- KVRian
- 1276 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from Louisville, KY
Highly recommended...based on Rolf's previous work with U-He's Bazille. Looking forward to more Zebra tutorials in the future.rofilm wrote:Well, reading these posts I thought it might be a good idea to start a series of Zebra-patch analysis. The first part is online now. Please tell me, if it is something like that, you are looking for:
Have a great day and a good time!
Rolf
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