My bad!wagtunes wrote:I have a personal problem with the developer. I don't want to get into detail so I will leave it at that. I have the Mangle and it's my favorite granular synth but I won't purchase another synth from him because of the problems I've had. If you want, PM me and I'll explain privately. I don't want to get into it here.
Thanks. I did get Discovery Pro and made a library for that one. Nice synth. Didn't sell well though. Makes me wonder how popular their synths are. But I did download this demo and will give it a spin.Jazzaria wrote:http://www.discodsp.com/corona/
1) 64 bit - yes, AU/VST
2) Extensive Programming Options - many oscillators, arpeggiator, filters, envelopes, etc.
3) Large GUI - yes, resizable even
4) Windows - yes
5) Demo Version Available Without Having To Join Mailing List - http://www.discodsp.com/download/?id=21
Also happens to be on sale now - http://www.discodsp.com/deals/
So let me get this straight. You either own or have ruled out pretty much all of the soft synths people can think of, and are trying to find another one to add to your enormous collection, but having a hard time because most of the known synths have been covered. And you want to make a commercial sound set for this synth that isn't popular enough to have caught your attention yet or to have been suggested to you yet? Are you sure that's a good business plan? To make a sound set for a synth you are having a hard time finding and nobody else seems to know about? Rather than the huge assortment of popular synths you have? I don't understand this. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make sound sets for synths that a lot of people own?wagtunes wrote:Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.Echoes in the Attic wrote:How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.
As I previously explained, there are only so many sound libraries that I can make for any one particular synth. Eventually, I just run out of ideas and I don't want to just make clones of previous sets with maybe slightly different sounds and names. I don't feel that's right. I want to offer my customers something truly different.Echoes in the Attic wrote:So let me get this straight. You either own or have ruled out pretty much all of the soft synths people can think of, and are trying to find another one to add to your enormous collection, but having a hard time because most of the known synths have been covered. And you want to make a commercial sound set for this synth that isn't popular enough to have caught your attention yet or to have been suggested to you yet? Are you sure that's a good business plan? To make a sound set for a synth you are having a hard time finding and nobody else seems to know about? Rather than the huge assortment of popular synths you have? I don't understand this. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make sound sets for synths that a lot of people own?wagtunes wrote:Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.Echoes in the Attic wrote:How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.
Sorry to focus on this still... but maybe expand your skill range some? If you are making basically the same preset pack for every synth... all you need one 1 new one which can then be made for all the synths you create sounds for. This seems inevitable, since even if you find 1, 2, or 3 more obscure synths, you are clearly running out and fast.wagtunes wrote:As I previously explained, there are only so many sound libraries that I can make for any one particular synth. Eventually, I just run out of ideas and I don't want to just make clones of previous sets with maybe slightly different sounds and names. I don't feel that's right. I want to offer my customers something truly different.Echoes in the Attic wrote:So let me get this straight. You either own or have ruled out pretty much all of the soft synths people can think of, and are trying to find another one to add to your enormous collection, but having a hard time because most of the known synths have been covered. And you want to make a commercial sound set for this synth that isn't popular enough to have caught your attention yet or to have been suggested to you yet? Are you sure that's a good business plan? To make a sound set for a synth you are having a hard time finding and nobody else seems to know about? Rather than the huge assortment of popular synths you have? I don't understand this. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make sound sets for synths that a lot of people own?wagtunes wrote:Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.Echoes in the Attic wrote:How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.
So while it may not be the "best" business model, I feel more comfortable doing that than rehashing old stuff. Besides, I might stumble onto a niche synth that nobody else has made a library for that enough people own to make it worth my time.
This is essentially true. Pretty much every synth I make a set for is one and done with the exception of those mega synths like Falcon and Omnisphere where you can never run out of ideas. And once Softube Modular comes out with more modules, that's another one. I created 250 patches just with the ones available now. I can't even imagine what I can do with more options for that thing.pdxindy wrote:Sorry to focus on this still... but maybe expand your skill range some? If you are making basically the same preset pack for every synth... all you need one 1 new one which can then be made for all the synths you create sounds for. This seems inevitable, since even if you find 1, 2, or 3 more obscure synths, you are clearly running out and fast.wagtunes wrote:As I previously explained, there are only so many sound libraries that I can make for any one particular synth. Eventually, I just run out of ideas and I don't want to just make clones of previous sets with maybe slightly different sounds and names. I don't feel that's right. I want to offer my customers something truly different.Echoes in the Attic wrote:So let me get this straight. You either own or have ruled out pretty much all of the soft synths people can think of, and are trying to find another one to add to your enormous collection, but having a hard time because most of the known synths have been covered. And you want to make a commercial sound set for this synth that isn't popular enough to have caught your attention yet or to have been suggested to you yet? Are you sure that's a good business plan? To make a sound set for a synth you are having a hard time finding and nobody else seems to know about? Rather than the huge assortment of popular synths you have? I don't understand this. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make sound sets for synths that a lot of people own?wagtunes wrote:Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.Echoes in the Attic wrote:How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.
So while it may not be the "best" business model, I feel more comfortable doing that than rehashing old stuff. Besides, I might stumble onto a niche synth that nobody else has made a library for that enough people own to make it worth my time.
Also, there are so many soundsets for specific dance music genres... most of which I find uninteresting. I think there is still plenty of room for other stuff... instrument sounds, etc
wagtunes wrote:Sheesh, another one where you have to sign up to a mailing list just to download a demo? Why do companies do this.
On the rejected list.
Thanks. Somebody sent me the link.Nocturnal909 wrote:Okay you can bypass the email thing. When it prompts you for the email just push send then the Demo screen pops for your download of choice. That how I got it.
You know maybe this trick might work for others you tried to demo for.
wagtunes wrote:Sheesh, another one where you have to sign up to a mailing list just to download a demo? Why do companies do this.
On the rejected list.
ShawnG The signature is not complete. I have released 25 libraries but signature lines can only be so long.Zexila wrote:Looking at your signature, if that's every commercial bank you released by now and than looking at the list of synths you own, why not just make a banks for the synths you actually own, there's plenty there and even popular ones, more than some even you don't know about.
Oh, ok, found it http://www.kvraudio.com/developer/wagsrfmwagtunes wrote:The signature is not complete. I have released 25 libraries but signature lines can only be so long.Zexila wrote:Looking at your signature, if that's every commercial bank you released by now and than looking at the list of synths you own, why not just make a banks for the synths you actually own, there's plenty there and even popular ones, more than some even you don't know about.
ShawnG These are the synths I have coming up this year.Zexila wrote:Oh, ok, found it http://www.kvraudio.com/developer/wagsrfmwagtunes wrote:The signature is not complete. I have released 25 libraries but signature lines can only be so long.Zexila wrote:Looking at your signature, if that's every commercial bank you released by now and than looking at the list of synths you own, why not just make a banks for the synths you actually own, there's plenty there and even popular ones, more than some even you don't know about.
Yeah, still stand by what I said previously.
CRX 4, CS 80, Element, ImpOSCar 2, FM 8 and TAL Bassline as suggestions.
ShawnG I was suggesting specifically NOT those dance oriented genres... 1 soundset does not come close to covering everything that isn't that stuff. the 60's 70's and 80's is rather broad... plus pads, cinematic, ambient, percussive and instrumental type stuff... etc.wagtunes wrote:This is essentially true. Pretty much every synth I make a set for is one and done with the exception of those mega synths like Falcon and Omnisphere where you can never run out of ideas. And once Softube Modular comes out with more modules, that's another one. I created 250 patches just with the ones available now. I can't even imagine what I can do with more options for that thing.pdxindy wrote: Sorry to focus on this still... but maybe expand your skill range some? If you are making basically the same preset pack for every synth... all you need one 1 new one which can then be made for all the synths you create sounds for. This seems inevitable, since even if you find 1, 2, or 3 more obscure synths, you are clearly running out and fast.
Also, there are so many soundsets for specific dance music genres... most of which I find uninteresting. I think there is still plenty of room for other stuff... instrument sounds, etc
Learning a new skill set? Yeah, probably should. But that means learning a new genre of music. I'm referring to the EDM crowd. All this wub, wub, dubstep stuff that seems to make up most of the commercial synths out there is a genre that i just don't feel. I'd essentially be going to YouTube, watching videos on how to make XYZ patch and then just copying it. The time it would take me to truly learn this genre and related genres would be immense, especially at my age having been stuck in the 60s, 70s and 80s for the last 40 to 50 years. You don't just "learn" a new skill set. It takes time and incredible dedication to do it right. Having a business to run, I don't have the luxury of spending countless hours learning how to make wub wub sounds. I need to spend my time doing things that put food on the table.
Besides, with the saturated market of these sounds, how do I compete against the established designers who specialize in this stuff?
So while in theory it sounds great, in practical application, it's just not practical.
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