Hi there – apologies if some of my phraseology is not up to snuff, I’m still finding my way around Zebra. It’s been very inspiring for me.
I’ve been having a lot of fun using some of the Zebrify presets after a reverb on an auxiliary bus in Logic. In other words using Zebrify to modulate the reverb to add extra life and interest.
I’m trying to decide whether I prefer to add the Zebrified signal via and extra send off the Reverb bus, which is a simple way to add a little or a lot of the Zebrifed reverb, but involves an extra Aux object, and is thus a little more messy on the Logic side, or have Zebrify as an insert effect actually on the reverb bus, which might end up being neater. I’m still not sure. Doing it the latter way f course allows the option of putting Zebrify before the reverb, which could be useful.
Anyway, my question (and in this example I’m using the preset “Diogenes”). If I go with the “Zebrify as an insert on the reverb bus” solution, I have been able to adjust the wet/dry ratio of the effect using the Zebrify Perform page, which (with the Diogenes preset at least) has the dry/wet ratio set up to be controlled along the X-axis of the first (left-most) XY controller. And this works great. It’s just that I would prefer to adjust the “mix” ratio directly. Seems to me if it’s capable of being controlled via the XY controller, there may be a direct “Mix” controller somewhere, but I can’t seem to find it. Am i missing something that's right in front of me? Can anyone help?
Zebrify wet/dry mix control?
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 18 Jul, 2016
I'm a recent u-he convert myself and don't use zebra (yet), but if it can be macroed it can obviously be found as a direct control somewhere. Do you mostly stick to the perform page or do you dive into the synthesis page at all? I'd suggest poking around there.
Alternatively, if there's no global wet/dry, you can always macro up the mix control of the individual modules...
Alternatively, if there's no global wet/dry, you can always macro up the mix control of the individual modules...
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- KVRian
- 574 posts since 20 Aug, 2013
Open Zebrify with the Diogenes preset.
Switch to the Synthesis page.
In the center grid, click the "Rev" module near the top right of the grid.
This will jump to and highlight the Reverb module.
There's your mix control, well, as in Wet/Dry volumes.
But, as you'll see, the Reverb module (intentionally) has no single Mix control.
Switch to the XY tab on the ribbon near the bottom of Zebrify.
Make sure the "XY1" switch is selected at the left.
There are two "assignment columns", the left one is for X values and the right one is for Y values.
You'll see how the Rev1:Dry and Rev1:Wet parameters are mapped in the Y colum.
Turn the very bottom-left-most knob on the GUI, labelled "Y1", and watch the lines in their assignment slots move to get a sense of what that does.
If you don't want to adjust the Wet/Dry parameters separately, and you don't want to use the XY pad as a controller, then you can use that Y1 knob as your single wet dry knob.
It's also pretty easy to set up MIDI control for that knob. With the XY tab open, click the little cogwheel icon in the very top right corner of Zebrify's GUI. The MIDI assignment overlay will be shown, click the green circle surrounding the Y1 knob and then move a knob on your MIDI controller - assignment done. Your single MIDI controller knob will now change the value of the "combined Wet/Dry control".
If you want to limit or extend the range of "what happens when you turn the Y1 knob", you can adjust the little arrows at the top and bottom of each assignment slot.
If you found this information helpful, please refer to the document we call the "user guide"... there's lots more information like this inside.
To find it, simply click the "Zebrify" logo at the top right corner, select "user guide" from the drop down menu. A folder with the Zebra2 user guide will be shown, open the Zebra2 user guide and jump ahead to the Zebrify section. In the current version, Zebrify starts at page 79.
Switch to the Synthesis page.
In the center grid, click the "Rev" module near the top right of the grid.
This will jump to and highlight the Reverb module.
There's your mix control, well, as in Wet/Dry volumes.
But, as you'll see, the Reverb module (intentionally) has no single Mix control.
Switch to the XY tab on the ribbon near the bottom of Zebrify.
Make sure the "XY1" switch is selected at the left.
There are two "assignment columns", the left one is for X values and the right one is for Y values.
You'll see how the Rev1:Dry and Rev1:Wet parameters are mapped in the Y colum.
Turn the very bottom-left-most knob on the GUI, labelled "Y1", and watch the lines in their assignment slots move to get a sense of what that does.
If you don't want to adjust the Wet/Dry parameters separately, and you don't want to use the XY pad as a controller, then you can use that Y1 knob as your single wet dry knob.
It's also pretty easy to set up MIDI control for that knob. With the XY tab open, click the little cogwheel icon in the very top right corner of Zebrify's GUI. The MIDI assignment overlay will be shown, click the green circle surrounding the Y1 knob and then move a knob on your MIDI controller - assignment done. Your single MIDI controller knob will now change the value of the "combined Wet/Dry control".
If you want to limit or extend the range of "what happens when you turn the Y1 knob", you can adjust the little arrows at the top and bottom of each assignment slot.
If you found this information helpful, please refer to the document we call the "user guide"... there's lots more information like this inside.
To find it, simply click the "Zebrify" logo at the top right corner, select "user guide" from the drop down menu. A folder with the Zebra2 user guide will be shown, open the Zebra2 user guide and jump ahead to the Zebrify section. In the current version, Zebrify starts at page 79.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 16 Aug, 2004 from Woodstock, NY USA
Hi Rob,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. as I mentioned, i was aware that i could use the x-axis as a controller for the mix. But that's when it occurred to me that there might be a mix control (overall for the entire plugin, rather than just the reverb) knob or slider somewhere. Since it can be assigned to the XY pad, i would have thought it would exist by itself somewhere?
Malcolm
Thanks for taking the time to reply. as I mentioned, i was aware that i could use the x-axis as a controller for the mix. But that's when it occurred to me that there might be a mix control (overall for the entire plugin, rather than just the reverb) knob or slider somewhere. Since it can be assigned to the XY pad, i would have thought it would exist by itself somewhere?
Malcolm
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 16 Aug, 2004 from Woodstock, NY USA
hi Razz, you would have thought so .. .RazzCE wrote:I'm a recent u-he convert myself and don't use zebra (yet), but if it can be macroed it can obviously be found as a direct control somewhere. Do you mostly stick to the perform page or do you dive into the synthesis page at all? I'd suggest poking around there.
Alternatively, if there's no global wet/dry, you can always macro up the mix control of the individual modules...
but I'm having the damnedest time finding it . . yes I've been getting fairly deep into it (and loving it too) certainly know my way around the perform and synthesis pages, and even poked around the matrix page but couldn't find anything. Hopefully the answer will arrive soonif it can be macroed it can obviously be found as a direct control somewhere
Malcolm
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- KVRAF
- 2176 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
Actually, Zebrify does not have a main dry/wet mix control.
What I did to achieve this in the Diogenes preset was the following:
If you go to the synthesis page, you can see there are four rows on which you can place the modules. Each of these rows has its own volume control.
If you look at the preset, you can also see that there are no modules on the fourth row. In the 'input' tab (at the bottom of the GUI, between the MIDI and the OSC 1 tab), I have set up the input mixer to send the incoming signal to both, row 1 and row 4. The input signal from row 1 goes to all the sound processing modules and row four acts as the dry signal.
I assigned the volume control of all four rows to the x-axis of the first xy pad and set it up in a way that allows the x-axis to function as a dry/wet control.
If you are creating your own presets for it and you only need a single row for the sound processing modules, there is an easier way to create a dry/wet control. In the input tab, send the incoming signal to two rows. Just place all your modules on one row, and on the other row place a 'mix' module. Right-Click the mix module and set it up so that it takes input from its own channel and from the channel on which all the other modules are placed. You have to set the volume of the row that holds the sound processing modules down to zero. Now you can use the mix module as your master dry/wet control.
Here is a picture of how this setup could look like:
What I did to achieve this in the Diogenes preset was the following:
If you go to the synthesis page, you can see there are four rows on which you can place the modules. Each of these rows has its own volume control.
If you look at the preset, you can also see that there are no modules on the fourth row. In the 'input' tab (at the bottom of the GUI, between the MIDI and the OSC 1 tab), I have set up the input mixer to send the incoming signal to both, row 1 and row 4. The input signal from row 1 goes to all the sound processing modules and row four acts as the dry signal.
I assigned the volume control of all four rows to the x-axis of the first xy pad and set it up in a way that allows the x-axis to function as a dry/wet control.
If you are creating your own presets for it and you only need a single row for the sound processing modules, there is an easier way to create a dry/wet control. In the input tab, send the incoming signal to two rows. Just place all your modules on one row, and on the other row place a 'mix' module. Right-Click the mix module and set it up so that it takes input from its own channel and from the channel on which all the other modules are placed. You have to set the volume of the row that holds the sound processing modules down to zero. Now you can use the mix module as your master dry/wet control.
Here is a picture of how this setup could look like:
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That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 16 Aug, 2004 from Woodstock, NY USA
Hey TD -
Thank you for the fascinating reply! I had a feeling there was some such cleverness involved. BTW, if you ever tried slapping this preset (with its own verb disabled actually) after a main track's reverb reverb and just dialing in a little, just enough too be sensed but not heard, it can add a lot of magic . .
Thanks again!
Malcolm
Thank you for the fascinating reply! I had a feeling there was some such cleverness involved. BTW, if you ever tried slapping this preset (with its own verb disabled actually) after a main track's reverb reverb and just dialing in a little, just enough too be sensed but not heard, it can add a lot of magic . .
Thanks again!
Malcolm