Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

[WolfKay]

Orange is a great vocoder… Even today the sound quality is still better than Razor, Lector, Xils 5000, and even Virta.

+100 on OrangeVocoder: it's still the king, but an overhaul is certainly welcome.
Denis, do you plan to release both Wormhole and the new OrangeVocoder this year?

[zynaptiq]

Quick heads-up: we've had a small number of reports of crashes on Mac. We have a build that seems to fix this, so if you're seeing such crashes and would like to try it – please email us!

[robotmonkey]

Orange is a great vocoder… Even today the sound quality is still better than Razor, Lector, Xils 5000, and even Virta.

+100 on OrangeVocoder: it's still the king, but an overhaul is certainly welcome.
Denis, do you plan to release both Wormhole and the new OrangeVocoder this year?

And the free NorthPole.

[zynaptiq]

Sounds awesome....but it has some very very large latency whatever i set in Logic Pro.
Is it supposed to introduce such a large latency? Would be only usable for pads/soundscapes then for me.
Don´t have that problem with any other FX.

It's been mentioned in this thread, you can bypass latency compensation inside the plugin, but the tails will still sound late if you do, but for tracking it's very helpful.

Exactly, thanks, Simon! Also, switching to ALLPASS rather than RAY TRACE, as well as setting the HCF to OFF reduces latency noticeably.

[zynaptiq]

I am unsure. it has that characteristic "spectral" sound a la other Zynaptiq processors, Kaleidoscope, et al. It sounds good but it has a character that can be over-used easily (Simon!) I like it. I may buy it. I am still exploring its diversity and character to determine if its something can be used in general or if it's sound is too specific. That's just me though.

Nah, generally, it's not just you. I am totally allergic to FFT sonics. However, I'm surprised you would have that impression of ADAPTIVERB, it's my #1 pet peeve to make sure that there's no denoiser vibes in our products if in any way avoidable.

Actually, the only way I can see how to get warbly stuff is to set SUSTAIN really low, and have REVERB SOURCE at max, and have REVERB MIX at min. You can simply mix in some direct-to-reverb by lowering REVERB SOURCE, add some diffusion by increasing REVERB MIX, and add a little more SUSTAIN to combat that.

Another thing you could mean with "spectral" is if you use the HCF, it can sound filtered as noisy components get removed first. That's what the BREATHINESS control is for – it mixes noisy components back in after the HCF filtering.

[zynaptiq]

Now imagine placing Adaptiverb next to Wormhole....

It sounds great, I can assure you

[zynaptiq]

Agreed. Orange is a great vocoder and I regret selling my license. It just needed some more modern features like better modulation options, band quantity selection, band shifting, etc. Even today the sound quality is still better than Razor, Lector, Xils 5000, and even Virta. Mvocoder is a close second, with the only downside being that it's unbearably ugly.

However, Morph 2 can do some really damn good-sounding vocoder fx too.

Sorry about the OT.

Well, most of the OV algorithms don't use bands internally, so band mapping and shifting may not really be possible to implement.

For modulation and stuff like that there's really good options in the host applications – which have the added advantage of being available across all plugins if they're implemented using automation, and not limited in scope to just the one particular plugin they're built into. There is some stuff that's better inside a plugin – envelope followers and pitchtrackers, for example, which require a high degree of timing precision and "tighness" – but say for slow tempo LFOs I'm not so sure whether that should really be a focus for us (as compared to, say, making more and better algorithms). That said, please DO educate me. I tried to get that omniscience brain upgrade but they were out of stock

At any rate,do email us with your Orange Vocoder wishlist; while I can't make any promises on inclusion or feasibility, we do love and I personally read every single line of feedback.

And no, I unfortunately don't have any announcements to make at this point.

[TabSel]

Will the HCF Keyboard tracking be playable by MIDI, so that you could actually "play" the reverb tail?

[nordickvr]

Will the HCF Keyboard tracking be playable by MIDI, so that you could actually "play" the reverb tail?

That would be amazing!
In the meantime/or as an option, would some more snapshots be a possibility for an eventual update?

[Fleer]

And the first professional review by Pro Tools Expert: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ662nMcLXI

[plexuss]

And the first professional review by Pro Tools Expert: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ662nMcLXI

I wouldnt call Pro Tools Expert legit "reviews". at most they are walkthroughs and I rarely hear them comment critically on plugins (they will throw in a token jesture minor grip to make it sound like. review). thye are all great and worth buying according to them. there are way better videos about Adaptiverb in this thread from Sampleconstruct and Zynapitiq

[Fleer]

And here's a customer review @Time+Space:
“Reviewed by: James Woolfe
Zynaptiq Adaptiverb
I was not planning to buy another reverb, I have a good few in my toolbox but after reading Zynaptiq's product description of Adapiverb I was intrigued to find out exactly what “Harmonic Tracking Resynthesis Reverb” was and more importantly how it sounded.
I am so glad that I did as this plug in has completely blown me away and changed my perception of what a reverb can do. I tried it with a few loops at first just to get a flavour for what it could do selecting presets at random. Adaptiverb has the ability to completely transform a sound in a very musical way. It works well on a wide range of sounds. Pads become richer and deeper and I found that provided I got the wet dry mix right it is great on drums. Vocals are lush but the most fun that I had was creating Drones. If you compose Ambient soundscapes Adapiverb will be right up your street. It has a freeze button which will freeze the reverb at the point where you engage this control. You can then play around with the some of the parameters to create movement and variation. It is a sound designers dream. Just be warned. You can get lost for hours with this.
What I loved most about Adaptiverb was when I put it on on the master bus. It completely transformed my mix adding glue space, depth and what I can only describe as a subtle harmonic sound. Its amazing just how much wet you can blend into the mix without it becoming a mess. There is defiantly some strange voodoo magic going on here. This may not work with all tracks, I don’t think that I would use Adaptiverb on a dance mix as it does take away a bit of punch and attack but for Ambient styles it is perfect. It made me feel like I had Brian Eno in my studio working his magic !
This is a completely different approach to Reverb. When you first open the Plug it can be a bit bewildering but after a while I started to get a basic understanding. There are still a few things that I have yet to get my head around and I think that the manual could have been better written. It tells you about the features but not how to use them or at least not in a way that I could understand. Maybe some good You Tube videos could help here however, there are a good selection of presets to get you started and help you with your learning curve.
Also customer support from Zynaptiq is great. I sent a email asking advice on how to recreate the settings that they used on their demo video and within a hour they had sent me the patch.
For me the best plug ins are the ones that inspire creativity and help you to push your work into new directions and it is for this reason Adaptiverb gets a big thumbs up and 5 stars from me.
Adaptiverb is truly inspiring.”

[Chandran]

This think is crashing live 9.6.2 like hell. No way to reload 2 saved projects where i use
adaptiverb!!! Demoed one half hour and that's the result i get...

[soundstudio]

It sounds very cool! But how to use it in real projects, if he eats the whole CPU?

[Neon Breath]

I am unsure. it has that characteristic "spectral" sound a la other Zynaptiq processors, Kaleidoscope, et al. It sounds good but it has a character that can be over-used easily (Simon!) I like it. I may buy it. I am still exploring its diversity and character to determine if its something can be used in general or if it's sound is too specific. That's just me though.

Hmmm really not sure to understand that statement. Good but has its own character? Isn't the case for all other plugins or effect processors? 2C Audio reverbs do. Valhalla's reverbs do too. Other companies do too. Sonic signatures are normal. And Adaptiverb is SO material dependant (I find that even more than other regular reverb) that the possibilities are just endless and you really can build your own color palette with it since it's so dependant on what you feed it.

Anyway to each his own of course but to me, it's the ultimate ambient and soundscape reverb I was waiting for and I'm pretty sure it's gonna stay that way for a long time, we don't see that type of reverb plugin everyday